Daily mail is one of chicken licken type newspapers where rhe sky is always falling!
Martin On Monday, 11 June 2012, Kyle Creyts wrote: > I don't believe I mentioned NSA's UDC... I think that is legitimate > news. I think your brain may have absorbed a bit much of that aluminum > from your foil hat. > > However, suggesting that there is a person reading all that crap seems > pretty silly, and assuming that you're going to tip a balance by using > those words in emails is a bit narcissistic. If you really can't see > the operational value of a system that reads the streaming data from > social media, and uses it to identify ongoing events of interest to > DHS or of operational importance, then you should probably get your > foil hat checked, because I'm probably trying to read your mind right > now, too. There is a very clear, very obvious use case from where I > sit, and it has nothing to do with tracking people. How many times did > you hear about an earthquake via Facebook or Twitter before you heard > about it on the news? > > If there was a list of words that they were using to track activities > of subversive people and groups, such a project, and probably any > information on the sig list it used would probably be classed. It > probably wouldn't listen to just social media, and certainly not for > such blasé keywords. It would likely be a highly dynamic list that > contained targeted entries largely informed by recent intelligence > produced by analysts working on different specific threats. > > It'd be a daft fool who releases his tracking signatures to the people > he targets. It wasn't like this was a whistleblower or FOIA win... > IIRC, this list, or some version of it has been out and making rounds > on the internet for quite a while, over a year. > > So, I frequently label the act of implying things that are very > clearly not in the text -- and needlessly add drama to a situation -- > as creating FUD. Let me know if I am using it wrong. Calling me naïve > is okay. I don't mind being considered naïve. I just think that this > would be a very large amount of money and possibly negative publicity > (and they hate negative publicity) to spend on mere misdirection. Note > that the inquiry was not into monitoring activities of the NSA, and > that this list is very specifically referred to as a DHS tool. If the > NSA has a tool, it is really probable that it isn't this. > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/82701103/Analyst-Desktop-Binder-REDACTED > > This manual details the usage of the list, and what identifies an Item > of Interest. > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:30 AM, steve pirk [egrep] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I really do not consider the NSA's Utah Data Center FUD, and I doubt that > > this list is limited to Homeland Security. I figure if they are going to > try > > and read everything, then give them tons of junk to read. > > > > I'll see Rob's comments and raise him one. I think I will add a paragraph > > similar to one of his to my G+ profile. That gets indexed by Google every > > day at least. Pretty soon they might need another one of these data > centers. > > hahahaha > > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 > > > > Oh, I switched over to using my gmail account for funsec, so I am going > to > > remove this apps account from the list. Same me, different profile pic. > > > > --steve > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Kyle Creyts <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Somebody really obviously has their knickers in a bunch over some FUD > >> again. This seems like a terribly overblown article making wild > >> accusations about what is really obviously a situational awareness > >> tool, not a system to track specific individuals. You don't put words > >> like "tornado" on a list of words to seek for spying on individuals. > >> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & > >> Hannah <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/REVEALED-Hundreds-words-avoid- > >> >> us ing-online-dont-want-government-spying-you.html > >> > > >> > This wasn't "smart." Obviously some "pork" barrel project dreamed up > by > >> > the DHS > >> > "authorities" "team" ("Hail" to them!) who are now "sick"ly sorry they > >> > looked > >> > into "cloud" computing "response." They are going to learn more than > >> > they ever > >> > wanted to know about "exercise" fanatics going through the "drill." > >> > > >> > Hopefully this message won't "spillover" and "crash" their "collapse"d > >> > parsing > >> > app, possibly "strain"ing a data "leak." You can probably "plot" the > >> > failures > >> > at the NSA as the terms "flood" in. They should have asked us for > >> > "help," or at > >> > least "aid." > >> > > >> > Excuse, me, according to the time on my "watch," I have to leave off > >> > working on > >> > this message, "wave" bye-bye, and get some "gas" in the car, and then > >> > get a > >> > "Subway" for the "nuclear" family's dinner. Afterwards, we're playing > >> > "Twister"! > >> > > >> > ("Dedicated denial of service"? Really?) > >> > > >> > > >> > ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) > >> > [email protected] [email protected] > [email protected] > >> > Every act of communication is an act of translation - G. Rabassa > >> > victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links > >> > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ > >> > http://twitter.com/rslade > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > >> > -- -- Martin Hepworth, CISSP Oxford, UK
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