I am FULLY in favor of starting over…. I say there are a couple things that 
should happen to “reboot” the government if you will…


1)      Get rid of Democrat and Republican (and ALL others) labels…

a.       This will ensure that people voting will have to listen to the actual 
issues the candidate stands for

b.      If a candidate uses the term Dem or Rep AT ALL they forfeit the race… 
Zero use of those labels can be used, even if it’s “former Democrat” or “former 
republican”, not allowed at all, you loose if you use… period!

c.       Lets face it Romney was 100% correct.  47% of folks will vote for 
Democrat and 47% will vote for Republican, JUST because of those two words 
acssociated with the candidate….  Oh shock!  The people voting will actually 
have to think for themselves!!!!

d.      Primary election would consist of everyone whom wants to run for 
office.  We put the TWO candidates with the most votes into the general election

e.      General election will decide the president (or whatever office)

f.        No more electoral college

2)      This is is *very* important….  FIRE the whole lot of them….  Everyone 
that holds an office right now is fired, period.  I’d say at a 
rep/congressman/gov/president level at least.

a.       You CANNOT run for office in this first election, so there’ll be ZERO 
incumbants running…

b.      You WILL be able to run for office next term if you desire.

With those 2 steps, we’ll be able to get full fresh blood into all the offices, 
AND the people of these United States will actually have to pay attention to 
the candidates.

 I think it’s good for a start at least….  Maybe a bit of refinement could be 
done, but on it’s basics, it’s pretty simple and will work….

Michael P. Blanchard
Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Cyber Security Services
EMC ² Corporation
32 Coslin Drive
Southboro, MA 01772

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Stephanie Daugherty
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:29 PM
To: Jeffrey Walton
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [funsec] I'll believe corporations are people when they let them 
drive in the HOV lane ...

I've seen calls for direct democracy as a replacement for representative 
government. There is a serious danger in that, and that is tyranny of a 
majority. Look at Uganda's recent "kill the gays" bill - can we really be sure 
that even something as malicious as that couldn't pass here with Faux News 
cheerleading it on?

Whatever may take the place of congress in the future, we do have to be mindful 
of the "dark side" of democracy - I mean, even in our own history we once 
thought slavery and alcohol prohibition were good ideas...




On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Jeffrey Walton 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Dan White 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On 02/04/13 17:10 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> ...
>> Don't be hesitant of starting over. Creationist should appreciate the
>> biblical theme - nearly all ancient societies talk about the great
>> flood. Chrisitianity turned it into Noah and the Ark. It should appeal
>> to Evolutionist too. The fall of the dinosaurs led to the rise of the
>> mamals.
>>
>> Starting over at times is righteous and natural.
>
>
> Starting over, without fixing the processes that got us here is just going
> to lead to the same result. Rapid incremental change (to legal code) is
> what's
> going to make the difference, but that's going to require a change in how
> representational government works - as in cutting the representatives out.
Funny you should bring that up :)

I was not sure if I was being naive or optomisitic (when I question
myself). Here, I hope the new group who would take their place would
have fortitude, courage, and some sense of equity, morals and justice;
and they would not travel in the same sewers.

Jeff
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