I have visio.  I knew it had a use :-).  I usually use it to make uml
diagrams because I dislike rational.  By any chance would you have a sample
visio file I can look at that you created.  I would understand if you can't
show it to me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wally Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: my issues with wirefram tools I have seen


> I have just completed a very successful forms prototyping effort using
Visio
> to mock up the forms.  It can quickly emulate the look and feel of
specific
> form types and can easily link forms together using dummy buttons and
> hyperlinks.
>
> We built a visual map of the website as a flowchart and then linked
specific
> boxes to individual form mockups.  Visio allows  you to create multiple
> pages (ie forms) with links between them.  Visio then generates the pages
as
> linked HTML forms for quick display by users.  We put the generated HTML
on
> our WEB site and had a conference call with users in Detroit who could
> follow our phone conference discussion about the forms and their flow.
>
> Visio is a very easy to use and inexpensive tool for moving beyond the
> wireframe.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jonathan Kopanas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: my issues with wirefram tools I have seen
>
>
> > I emailed them about 2 weeks ago looking for version 2.5 and they said
> they
> > would email me when the beta would be available online.  I am very much
> > looking forward to trying it.  I have to admit there team or at least
the
> > members I meet are constantly trying to improve there product and
looking
> > for user input.  Not many companies do that and the ones which do are
> > usually very successfull.
> >
> > I think my argument is less about the products and more about the
> > methodology/process of prototyping/wireframing.  I was just surprised
when
> I
> > tried out both wireframing tools to find out they did not allow more
info
> to
> > be inserted, that is not the products fault but the methodologies.  I
just
> > wanted to express my view to maybe open up people's eyes to another view
> and
> > get opinions on mine.
> >
> > Thanks though for your email.
> >
> > > Regarding Adalon's 2.5 beta product (which I would highly recommend
over
> > > the 2.2 version), I think the wireframe tool is really excellent.
> > > Wireframes are not really meant to get down to the level of the form
> > > fields. Rather, they help get buy-in from higher-level decision
makers,
> > > spur thought about what the overall application should do and,
> > > incidentally, act as a nifty sales tool! Total time spent on the
> > > wireframe tool is typically less than 2 hours.
> > >
> > > The 2.5 beta that I demo'd at CFNorth is, I think, an enormous step
> > > forward. Earlier versions were good attempts, but Adalon reaches its
> > > stride in 2.5. So, where do you get sign off for form fields, etc? At
> > > this point, it is done in the prototype. Several of us are trying out
> > > ideas of a step between wireframes and prototypes that may be able to
> > > hone in on the kind of information you need, John. Things look
hopeful.
> > >
> > > Anyway, hope that helps.
> >
> >
>
>

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