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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:33:53 -0400
From: "Patrick McElhaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Question re core file performance


> Julian wrote:
>
> http://www.meta-magic.com/cgi-bin/fusewiki?FaFiles
>
> ...
>
> For me the main advantage...
> 
> PS: Patrick - don't know if you want to add this 
> to your list of advantages on the Wiki?

Thanks, Julian! I added it, as well as another comment.

Patrick





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:49:17 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IRC


I come and go, like the wind... ;>
Keep trying; I'll be there off and on.

- Jeff

On 2 Oct 2002 at 17:07, Shane Johnson wrote:

> I'm there Jeff, no sign of your grokiness....
> 
>  
>  
> Shane Johnson
> Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
> www.strangetactics.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 604.999.0866 
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: IRC
> 
> FWIW, I've revived the #fusebox channel on EnterTheGame, and 
> will hang out there from time to time.  Feel free to drop by if you're 
> into IRC.
> 
> - Jeff
> ====================================================
> =======
> Jeffrey S. Peters      |"...specialization is for insects."
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                     - Lazarus Long
> "Fusebox: Developing ColdFusion Applications" 
> Now available at http://www.GrokFusebox.com
> ====================================================
> =======
> 
> 
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> 
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!                         
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.       
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball   
>  Championship                                                   
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main   
> 
> 
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> 
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!                         
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.       
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball   
>  Championship                                                   
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 






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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:58:47 +0100 
From: John Beynon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: IRC


Numbers picking up in there now...come say hello if ya can (firewalls etc -
ps you need 6667 open to talk!)

Jb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 03 October 2002 13:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IRC


I come and go, like the wind... ;>
Keep trying; I'll be there off and on.

- Jeff

On 2 Oct 2002 at 17:07, Shane Johnson wrote:

> I'm there Jeff, no sign of your grokiness....
> 
>  
>  
> Shane Johnson
> Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer www.strangetactics.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 604.999.0866 
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: IRC
> 
> FWIW, I've revived the #fusebox channel on EnterTheGame, and
> will hang out there from time to time.  Feel free to drop by if you're 
> into IRC.
> 
> - Jeff
> ====================================================
> =======
> Jeffrey S. Peters      |"...specialization is for insects."
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                     - Lazarus Long
> "Fusebox: Developing ColdFusion Applications"
> Now available at http://www.GrokFusebox.com
> ====================================================
> =======
> 
> 
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> 
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!                         
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.       
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball   
>  Championship                                                   
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main   
> 
> 
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> 
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!                         
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.       
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>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:15:08 +0000
From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now


I seem to remember that Win2k with sp 5 (and possibly 4) broke Ses.

clickdoug wrote:
> None of the links work for me. (IE6)
> 
> As a Provider, I can tell you that you need to know what the default 
> page is in your root directory.
> 
> In my case, when setting up a new account is to set default documents to 
> index.cfm, and secondary
> index.htm.
> 
> My firewall will block  unrecognizable extensions like home.home
> 
> ======================================
> Got DSL?  Check it out!
> For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
> ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
> ======================================
> If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:22 PM
> Subject: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now
> 
> 
> | I think my hosting company has a setup that prevents a url like this
> | from working (i'm using SES).
> |
> | i get a 404 page cannot be found error
> | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home
> | (i does not even get to the application.cfm or index.cfm file to see 
> the
> | ses code or any code for that matter.)
> |
> | this works...
> | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.home
> | so does this...
> | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home/a
> |
> | any idea what they might have done to the server? I have to assume it 
> is
> | the server preventing that url from going through, must have something
> | to do with the . with no ending / and faux variable
> |
> | BTW, anyone need a real hairpiece cheap.
> |
> |
> | __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> |
> |  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
> |  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
> |  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
> |  Championship
> |  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
> |
> |
> |
> 
> 
> 



catholicliturgy.com
catholicstore.com





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:19:35 +0100 
From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now


woah horsey....... Win2K is only up to SP3 !

Did you mean NT4?  that has 6 (6a) SP's.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 October 2002 15:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now


I seem to remember that Win2k with sp 5 (and possibly 4) broke Ses.

clickdoug wrote:
> None of the links work for me. (IE6)
> 
> As a Provider, I can tell you that you need to know what the default 
> page is in your root directory.
> 
> In my case, when setting up a new account is to set default documents to 
> index.cfm, and secondary
> index.htm.
> 
> My firewall will block  unrecognizable extensions like home.home
> 
> ======================================
> Got DSL?  Check it out!
> For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
> ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
> ======================================
> If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:22 PM
> Subject: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now
> 
> 
> | I think my hosting company has a setup that prevents a url like this
> | from working (i'm using SES).
> |
> | i get a 404 page cannot be found error
> | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home
> | (i does not even get to the application.cfm or index.cfm file to see 
> the
> | ses code or any code for that matter.)
> |
> | this works...
> | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.home
> | so does this...
> | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home/a
> |
> | any idea what they might have done to the server? I have to assume it 
> is
> | the server preventing that url from going through, must have something
> | to do with the . with no ending / and faux variable
> |
> | BTW, anyone need a real hairpiece cheap.
> |
> |
> | __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> |
> |  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
> |  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
> |  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
> |  Championship
> |  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
> |
> |
> |
> 
> 
> 



catholicliturgy.com
catholicstore.com


__________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!

 Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!                         
 October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.       
 2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball   
 Championship                                                   
 http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main   





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:23:14 +0200
From: "Urs Bertschy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


pleeeaaaase John, do publish the new book also as a downloadble pdf

I don't like to wait for six weeks for amazon to get it shipped to europe.
Thats the amount of time I waited for "Discovering Fusebox".

I would pay the same price for the pdf as for the printed version.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: CFC BOOK?


> We're looking at sometime around the FB conference
>
> But the special offer for pre-ordering will end in the next few days so
> take advantage now to get the accompanying eWorkbook for free
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Farrar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CFC BOOK?
>
> When is the book going to actually ship? (Other than mid-October?)
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
>  Championship
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
>  Championship
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
>
>
>
>





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:59:22 -0700
From: "Erik Voldengen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now


yes, nt 4 and any service pack > 5 "breaks" ses iif (if and only if)
you use .htm as an extension.  Probably .html, too.

-Erik

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:20 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now
>
>
> woah horsey....... Win2K is only up to SP3 !
>
> Did you mean NT4?  that has 6 (6a) SP's.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 03 October 2002 15:15
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now
>
>
> I seem to remember that Win2k with sp 5 (and possibly 4) broke Ses.
>
> clickdoug wrote:
> > None of the links work for me. (IE6)
> >
> > As a Provider, I can tell you that you need to know what the default
> > page is in your root directory.
> >
> > In my case, when setting up a new account is to set default
> documents to
> > index.cfm, and secondary
> > index.htm.
> >
> > My firewall will block  unrecognizable extensions like home.home
> >
> > ======================================
> > Got DSL?  Check it out!
> > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
> > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
> > ======================================
> > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:22 PM
> > Subject: pulled my hair out on this one and bald now
> >
> >
> > | I think my hosting company has a setup that prevents a url like this
> > | from working (i'm using SES).
> > |
> > | i get a 404 page cannot be found error
> > | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home
> > | (i does not even get to the application.cfm or index.cfm file to see
> > the
> > | ses code or any code for that matter.)
> > |
> > | this works...
> > | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.home
> > | so does this...
> > | http://www.myurlhere.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home/a
> > |
> > | any idea what they might have done to the server? I have to assume it
> > is
> > | the server preventing that url from going through, must have something
> > | to do with the . with no ending / and faux variable
> > |
> > | BTW, anyone need a real hairpiece cheap.
> > |
> > |
> > | __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> > |
> > |  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
> > |  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
> > |  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
> > |  Championship
> > |  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> catholicliturgy.com
> catholicstore.com
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
>  Championship
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
>  Championship
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
>
>
>






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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:20:27 -0400
From: "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


I agree completely on this one! How about a PDF version of the book?





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:21:03 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Question re core file performance


I'm not condemning FA files, but i used them for a while back in FB2/XFB and
didn't like them.  It totally eliminated the ability for you to look over
your switch file and get an idea about how the app flowed.  With a stock
fbx_Switch, you can see all your exits and includes in a single file,
whereas with FA files, you have to open a bunch of indivudual files.

The app I wroting using them has been mostly migrated to FB3, and still uses
FA files, because it made sense for that application.  If I see another
project that will really benefit from FA files, I'll certainly use them, but
I'll also make a strong effort to get around it if I can, for the simple
summary quality of the fbx_Switch file.

barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Halliwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question re core file performance


I heartily recommend Patrick's FA file approach. Been using it for months
and would find it hard to go back to the big switch.

http://www.meta-magic.com/cgi-bin/fusewiki?FaFiles

For me the main advantage is that you no longer need to worry about the
switch file getting too big, which encourages you to put fuseaction-specific
(as opposed to fuse-specific) conditional logic at the fa level rather than
trying to anticipate conditions in the fuses. This in turn helps keep fuses
smaller, more atomic and therefore more re-useable.

Julian.

PS: Patrick - don't know if you want to add this to your list of advantages
on the Wiki?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: Question re core file performance


> Patrick's FA files are the same idea, although on a slighly grander scale,
> and probably a better choice in this case.


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:49:46 +0200
From: "Xavi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Turbo fusebox error


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Hi, I'm using in production the Turbo code from LeeBorkman and i'm
getting this error a lot.

 

Ha habido un error: 

Routines cannot be declared more than once.


Tipo: UNKNOWN

Detalles: 

The routine runAction has been declared twice in different templates.

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
of (), occupying document position (1:1) to (1:1).

 What's happen?




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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi, I&#8217;m using in production the Turbo code from
LeeBorkman and i&#8217;m getting this error a lot.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=1 face=Verdana><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>Ha habido un 
error</span></font></b></strong><font
size=1 face=Verdana><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>:
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=1 face=Verdana><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Routines cannot be declared more than once.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
8.5pt;font-family:Verdana'><br>
<strong><b><font face=Verdana><span 
style='font-family:Verdana'>Tipo</span></font></b></strong>:
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:59:07 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Turbo fusebox error


Turbo is a nonstandard FB3 core emulator.  Questions should be addressed to the 
author, or 
discussed on the fbcommunity list.

===========================================================
Jeffrey S. Peters      |"...specialization is for insects."
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                     - Lazarus Long
"Fusebox: Developing ColdFusion Applications" 
Now available at http://www.GrokFusebox.com
===========================================================





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:44:49 +0200
From: "Xavi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Turbo fusebox error


Ok sorry, I thought that turbo was 100% compliant with Standard FB3
core.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de octubre de 2002 17:59
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Turbo fusebox error

Turbo is a nonstandard FB3 core emulator.  Questions should be addressed
to the author, or 
discussed on the fbcommunity list.

===========================================================
Jeffrey S. Peters      |"...specialization is for insects."
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                     - Lazarus Long
"Fusebox: Developing ColdFusion Applications" 
Now available at http://www.GrokFusebox.com
===========================================================


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:51:45 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Turbo fusebox error


Turbo it is compliant (as far as I know), but it's not standard.  Anything
that isn't in the standard code file (from fusebox.org) is extra, and
shouldn't be discussed here (like runAction).  The idea is that someone new
to fusebox can read this list and not have to deal with all the custom
extensions.  fbcommunity is pretty much fair game for everything else.

barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: Xavi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Turbo fusebox error


Ok sorry, I thought that turbo was 100% compliant with Standard FB3
core.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de octubre de 2002 17:59
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Turbo fusebox error

Turbo is a nonstandard FB3 core emulator.  Questions should be addressed
to the author, or
discussed on the fbcommunity list.

===========================================================
Jeffrey S. Peters      |"...specialization is for insects."
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                     - Lazarus Long
"Fusebox: Developing ColdFusion Applications"
Now available at http://www.GrokFusebox.com
===========================================================


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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 17:53:37 +0000
From: Rey Muradaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Question re core file performance


I certainly understand the orthodox approach of keeping everything in 
the switch, but some of the case statements in this application are 100+ 
lines themselves, what with conditional logic and stacks of includes, so 
I'm very interested in exploring this approach, both from the 
performance and readability perspectives.  Thanks again to all for your 
(as-always) useful insights.

All the best,
REM O- 

Barney Boisvert wrote:
> I'm not condemning FA files, but i used them for a while back in FB2/XFB 
> and
> didn't like them.  It totally eliminated the ability for you to look 
> over
> your switch file and get an idea about how the app flowed.  With a stock
> fbx_Switch, you can see all your exits and includes in a single file,
> whereas with FA files, you have to open a bunch of indivudual files.
> 
> The app I wroting using them has been mostly migrated to FB3, and still 
> uses
> FA files, because it made sense for that application.  If I see another
> project that will really benefit from FA files, I'll certainly use them, 
> but
> I'll also make a strong effort to get around it if I can, for the simple
> summary quality of the fbx_Switch file.
> 
> barneyb
> 





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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:08:57 -0700
From: Steven Au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: online cc billing systems


Hi All

I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system 
other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring 
billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in 
the works, but will not be out for a few months.

If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go 
about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL 
Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go this 
route. Any thoughts are appreciate.

Thanks

Steve





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:34:09 +0200
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


How about a pdf version of the first book as well ??
(Please ....)
Val
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


I agree completely on this one! How about a PDF version of the book?


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:32:19 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Question re core file performance


Yeah, that sounds like a good use for FA files.  ;)  I certainly would go
that route, because what you'd gain in "easy" readability you'd lose in
having to scroll a couple screenfuls per CFCASE.  Of course, that begs the
question, what's in your CFCASEs that is so huge, but I don't think I want
to know.

One compromise that just came to me is to keep the cases, but move all the
logic and includes to a FA file, so the fbx_Switch file would have a bunch
of these:

<cfcase value="fuseaction">
        <cfset xfa.something = fusebox.targetcircuit & ".it" />
        <cfset xfa.theother = fusebox.targetcircuit & ".two" />
        ....
        <cfset xfa.whatever = fusebox.targetcircuit & ".billy" />

        <cfinclude template="fa_#fusebox.fuseaction#.cfm" />
</cfcase>

That'd keep the fbx_Switch file informative, but make use of the effeciency
that the FA files have to offer.

cheers,
barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: Rey Muradaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question re core file performance


I certainly understand the orthodox approach of keeping everything in
the switch, but some of the case statements in this application are 100+
lines themselves, what with conditional logic and stacks of includes, so
I'm very interested in exploring this approach, both from the
performance and readability perspectives.  Thanks again to all for your
(as-always) useful insights.

All the best,
REM O-

Barney Boisvert wrote:
> I'm not condemning FA files, but i used them for a while back in FB2/XFB
> and
> didn't like them.  It totally eliminated the ability for you to look
> over
> your switch file and get an idea about how the app flowed.  With a stock
> fbx_Switch, you can see all your exits and includes in a single file,
> whereas with FA files, you have to open a bunch of indivudual files.
>
> The app I wroting using them has been mostly migrated to FB3, and still
> uses
> FA files, because it made sense for that application.  If I see another
> project that will really benefit from FA files, I'll certainly use them,
> but
> I'll also make a strong effort to get around it if I can, for the simple
> summary quality of the fbx_Switch file.
>
> barneyb
>

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:42:23 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


encryption is good, but you'd have to store the key in you code files, which
is less that desirable.  It would mean that a hacker would have to gain
access to both the DB and the code base in order to do anything, but that's
not a lot of consolation.  However, I don't think that you're going to find
something that stores the CC number for you, because a gateway is just that,
a gateway.  It's not a warehouse.

One way to make the number more secure is to encrypt with a varying key.
For example, rather than hash your users passwords, encrypt them with their
username or soemthing.  then use their unencrypted password to encrypt the
CC number.  When you need the number, use the username (stored unencrypted)
to decrypt the password from the DB, and use that to decrypt the number.

It doesn't offer that much more security, but it does require a hacker to
figure out a procedure, rather than a string, which is typically what's
used, and what most will be looking for.

I don't know that that helps much, but it should at least give you some
ideas.

cheers,
barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Au [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: online cc billing systems


Hi All

I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system
other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in
the works, but will not be out for a few months.

If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go this
route. Any thoughts are appreciate.

Thanks

Steve


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:53:59 -0500
From: "clickdoug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: online cc billing systems


I use PayPal, who provides you a complete secure package hosted on their servers and 
all for free.

They furnish you a complete configurable tool kit also for free. You do not have to 
store or worry
about Credit card information.

PayPal is owned by ebay now.

It saves your client from having to have a merchant account and saves them the 
associated fees for
CC processing, and payment transfers, or monthly fees.

I recommend them highly for accuracy. security and reliability.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: online cc billing systems


| Hi All
|
| I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system
| other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
| billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in
| the works, but will not be out for a few months.
|
| If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
| about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
| Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go this
| route. Any thoughts are appreciate.
|
| Thanks
|
| Steve
|
|
| __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
|
|  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
|  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
|  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
|  Championship
|  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
|
|
|





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:57:30 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


I though PayPal was only client initiated transactions, so you couldn't use
it for periodic billing and such without the client reinitiating the
transaction.

I was looking at them at the beginning of the year, so they could well have
expanded functionality by now.

barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: clickdoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: online cc billing systems


I use PayPal, who provides you a complete secure package hosted on their
servers and all for free.

They furnish you a complete configurable tool kit also for free. You do not
have to store or worry
about Credit card information.

PayPal is owned by ebay now.

It saves your client from having to have a merchant account and saves them
the associated fees for
CC processing, and payment transfers, or monthly fees.

I recommend them highly for accuracy. security and reliability.



======================================
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For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
======================================
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: online cc billing systems


| Hi All
|
| I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system
| other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
| billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in
| the works, but will not be out for a few months.
|
| If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
| about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
| Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go
this
| route. Any thoughts are appreciate.
|
| Thanks
|
| Steve
|
|
| __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
|
|  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
|  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
|  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
|  Championship
|  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
|
|
|


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:59:52 -0400
From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


Val,

it looks like we are going to offer the option to order either the printed
book OR the (printed book plus PDF). We won't be offering the PDF on its
own.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


> How about a pdf version of the first book as well ??
> (Please ....)
> Val
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
>
>
> I agree completely on this one! How about a PDF version of the book?
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
>  Championship
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>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
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>  Championship
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>
>
>
>





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:33:58 -0500
From: "clickdoug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: online cc billing systems


Well, I use PayPal for periodic billing to my hosting clients, and have been doing so 
for a year
now, it works great, and automatically.

======================================
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


| I though PayPal was only client initiated transactions, so you couldn't use
| it for periodic billing and such without the client reinitiating the
| transaction.
|
| I was looking at them at the beginning of the year, so they could well have
| expanded functionality by now.
|
| barneyb
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: clickdoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:54 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: online cc billing systems
|
|
| I use PayPal, who provides you a complete secure package hosted on their
| servers and all for free.
|
| They furnish you a complete configurable tool kit also for free. You do not
| have to store or worry
| about Credit card information.
|
| PayPal is owned by ebay now.
|
| It saves your client from having to have a merchant account and saves them
| the associated fees for
| CC processing, and payment transfers, or monthly fees.
|
| I recommend them highly for accuracy. security and reliability.
|
|
|
| ======================================
| Got DSL?  Check it out!
| For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
| ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
| ======================================
| If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Steven Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:08 PM
| Subject: online cc billing systems
|
|
| | Hi All
| |
| | I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system
| | other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
| | billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in
| | the works, but will not be out for a few months.
| |
| | If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
| | about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
| | Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go
| this
| | route. Any thoughts are appreciate.
| |
| | Thanks
| |
| | Steve
| |
| |
| | __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
| |
| |  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
| |  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
| |  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
| |  Championship
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| |
| |
| |
|
|
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|
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:42:53 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


sweet.  Must have been looking in the wrong place or soemthing.  good to
know.

barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: clickdoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: online cc billing systems


Well, I use PayPal for periodic billing to my hosting clients, and have been
doing so for a year
now, it works great, and automatically.

======================================
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For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
======================================
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


| I though PayPal was only client initiated transactions, so you couldn't
use
| it for periodic billing and such without the client reinitiating the
| transaction.
|
| I was looking at them at the beginning of the year, so they could well
have
| expanded functionality by now.
|
| barneyb
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: clickdoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:54 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: online cc billing systems
|
|
| I use PayPal, who provides you a complete secure package hosted on their
| servers and all for free.
|
| They furnish you a complete configurable tool kit also for free. You do
not
| have to store or worry
| about Credit card information.
|
| PayPal is owned by ebay now.
|
| It saves your client from having to have a merchant account and saves them
| the associated fees for
| CC processing, and payment transfers, or monthly fees.
|
| I recommend them highly for accuracy. security and reliability.
|
|
|
| ======================================
| Got DSL?  Check it out!
| For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
| ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
| ======================================
| If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Steven Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:08 PM
| Subject: online cc billing systems
|
|
| | Hi All
| |
| | I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing
system
| | other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
| | billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is
in
| | the works, but will not be out for a few months.
| |
| | If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
| | about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
| | Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go
| this
| | route. Any thoughts are appreciate.
| |
| | Thanks
| |
| | Steve
| |
| |
| | __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
| |
| |  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
| |  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
| |  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
| |  Championship
| |  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
| |
| |
| |
|
|
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:39:57 -0400 
From: Daniel Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


        A more secure solutions for reoccurring billing is to only have long
term storage of CC number on a backend (separate secure location preferable)
system that is not directly accessible.  This second system stores all the
CC numbers that will have reoccurring billing preferable encrypted.  The CC
number can be transferred from the primary systems to backend server on a
scheduled basis passing an encrypted file or passing data packages
(wddx,xml, etc.) over SSL.  With this process working properly you greatly
limit the number of CC's that are on your public system.  Those number are
encrypted and the key to decrypt them is not on the server.  I would
recommend PGP or other encryption code.  I know there was a few years ago a
cfx_pgp.  This plus locking down security on your both servers should make
you fairly secure.  If you are on a shared box you also have to worry about
everyone else on the box.  See if advanced security sandboxes can be set up
and if not be sure that CFfile and like functions are turned off so that
others can't modify or see your code.  

If you have question on this set up let me know
Daniel D. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


I though PayPal was only client initiated transactions, so you couldn't use
it for periodic billing and such without the client reinitiating the
transaction.

I was looking at them at the beginning of the year, so they could well have
expanded functionality by now.

barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: clickdoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: online cc billing systems


I use PayPal, who provides you a complete secure package hosted on their
servers and all for free.

They furnish you a complete configurable tool kit also for free. You do not
have to store or worry
about Credit card information.

PayPal is owned by ebay now.

It saves your client from having to have a merchant account and saves them
the associated fees for
CC processing, and payment transfers, or monthly fees.

I recommend them highly for accuracy. security and reliability.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: online cc billing systems


| Hi All
|
| I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system
| other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
| billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in
| the works, but will not be out for a few months.
|
| If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
| about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
| Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go
this
| route. Any thoughts are appreciate.
|
| Thanks
|
| Steve
|
|
| __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
|
|  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
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|  Championship
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|
|
|


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:52:05 +0200
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


John,
With the shipping/import duty costs involved, paying extra for the pdf is
not a problem, but if I order, you will get a request NOT to send me the
actual book, just supply the download link for the pdf ...

Thanks in advance

Val
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


> Val,
>
> it looks like we are going to offer the option to order either the printed
> book OR the (printed book plus PDF). We won't be offering the PDF on its
> own.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
>
>
> > How about a pdf version of the first book as well ??
> > (Please ....)
> > Val
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
> >
> >
> > I agree completely on this one! How about a PDF version of the book?
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>





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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:55:08 -0500
From: "David Huyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


I'll take his copy of the book, if he doesn't want it :D

----- Original Message -----
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


| John,
| With the shipping/import duty costs involved, paying extra for the pdf is
| not a problem, but if I order, you will get a request NOT to send me the
| actual book, just supply the download link for the pdf ...
|
| Thanks in advance
|
| Val
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:59 PM
| Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
|
|
| > Val,
| >
| > it looks like we are going to offer the option to order either the printed
| > book OR the (printed book plus PDF). We won't be offering the PDF on its
| > own.





------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:01:34 +0200
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


<g>
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Huyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


> I'll take his copy of the book, if he doesn't want it :D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
>
>
> | John,
> | With the shipping/import duty costs involved, paying extra for the pdf
is
> | not a problem, but if I order, you will get a request NOT to send me the
> | actual book, just supply the download link for the pdf ...
> |
> | Thanks in advance
> |
> | Val
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:59 PM
> | Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
> |
> |
> | > Val,
> | >
> | > it looks like we are going to offer the option to order either the
printed
> | > book OR the (printed book plus PDF). We won't be offering the PDF on
its
> | > own.
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
>  Championship
>  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
>
>
>





------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:04:02 +0100 
From: John Beynon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: CFC BOOK?


That's the same as CFDJ! It's a right pain... :(

-----Original Message-----
From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 03 October 2002 20:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


Val,

it looks like we are going to offer the option to order either the printed
book OR the (printed book plus PDF). We won't be offering the PDF on its
own.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


> How about a pdf version of the first book as well ??
> (Please ....)
> Val
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
>
>
> I agree completely on this one! How about a PDF version of the book?
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
>  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball  
> Championship  
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>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
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>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:13:12 -0800
From: Steven Au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: online cc billing systems


Hi Daniel

wow thanks for all the info. i would love to implement the system, but have 
concerns as it is a shared box on a web hosting company. i believe the SQL 
server is on a separate server not directly accessible from the outside.

could you elaborate on the passing of the numbers between servers. i'm 
guessing that you're referring to two db servers. you mentioned having the 
encryption key not on the primary server. how does this work? maybe I need 
to understand the encryption packages a little more... i know that cffile 
is enabled as, i can upload our demo file via cffile. I guess my next round 
of questions should be directed to the webhost. What should I be looking 
for when i'm inquiring about their setup? will your idea work with one db?

thanks for all the help!

Steve



At 03:39 PM 10/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>         A more secure solutions for reoccurring billing is to only have long
>term storage of CC number on a backend (separate secure location preferable)
>system that is not directly accessible.  This second system stores all the
>CC numbers that will have reoccurring billing preferable encrypted.  The CC
>number can be transferred from the primary systems to backend server on a
>scheduled basis passing an encrypted file or passing data packages
>(wddx,xml, etc.) over SSL.  With this process working properly you greatly
>limit the number of CC's that are on your public system.  Those number are
>encrypted and the key to decrypt them is not on the server.  I would
>recommend PGP or other encryption code.  I know there was a few years ago a
>cfx_pgp.  This plus locking down security on your both servers should make
>you fairly secure.  If you are on a shared box you also have to worry about
>everyone else on the box.  See if advanced security sandboxes can be set up
>and if not be sure that CFfile and like functions are turned off so that
>others can't modify or see your code.
>
>If you have question on this set up let me know
>Daniel D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:58 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: online cc billing systems
>
>
>I though PayPal was only client initiated transactions, so you couldn't use
>it for periodic billing and such without the client reinitiating the
>transaction.
>
>I was looking at them at the beginning of the year, so they could well have
>expanded functionality by now.
>
>barneyb
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: clickdoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:54 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: online cc billing systems
>
>
>I use PayPal, who provides you a complete secure package hosted on their
>servers and all for free.
>
>They furnish you a complete configurable tool kit also for free. You do not
>have to store or worry
>about Credit card information.
>
>PayPal is owned by ebay now.
>
>It saves your client from having to have a merchant account and saves them
>the associated fees for
>CC processing, and payment transfers, or monthly fees.
>
>I recommend them highly for accuracy. security and reliability.
>
>
>
>======================================
>Got DSL?  Check it out!
>For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
>ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
>======================================
>If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:08 PM
>Subject: online cc billing systems
>
>
>| Hi All
>|
>| I was wondering if anybody could recommend a good online cc billing system
>| other than Verisign. I'm looking for a system that will do recurring
>| billing without storing CC numbers on our server. Verisign's package is in
>| the works, but will not be out for a few months.
>|
>| If you think that storing the CC numbers is OK, what are someways to go
>| about this? My site is being hosted with a web hosting company on a SQL
>| Server DB. For starters, I would like to encrypt the CC number if I go
>this
>| route. Any thoughts are appreciate.
>|
>| Thanks
>|
>| Steve
>|
>|
>| __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>|
>|  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
>|  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
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>|  Championship
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>|
>|
>|
>
>
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:11:03 -0400
From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


maybe we can send it to your local CFUG and that way someone else can get
some benefit out of it

(particularly the parts of CFCs that require ...."fixing")


----- Original Message -----
From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?


> John,
> With the shipping/import duty costs involved, paying extra for the pdf is
> not a problem, but if I order, you will get a request NOT to send me the
> actual book, just supply the download link for the pdf ...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Val
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:59 PM
> Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
>
>
> > Val,
> >
> > it looks like we are going to offer the option to order either the
printed
> > book OR the (printed book plus PDF). We won't be offering the PDF on its
> > own.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Val Raemaekers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
> >
> >
> > > How about a pdf version of the first book as well ??
> > > (Please ....)
> > > Val
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: CFC BOOK?
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree completely on this one! How about a PDF version of the book?
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> > >
> > >  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
> > >  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
> > >  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
> > >  Championship
> > >  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
> > >
> > >  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
> > >  October 26th & 27th: Orlando, FL, just before MACR DevCon.
> > >  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
> > >  Championship
> > >  http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=conference.main
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >  2 jam-packed days, 15 speakers in three tracks, World Fuseball
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________/Fusebox Conference!
>
>  Sign up for the Fusebox Conference today!
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>  Championship
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>
>





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