>Date:  Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:30:08 -0500
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>Subject: Canadian officials duck UN ECOSOC questions in Geneva
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>From: Eric Fawcett and Phyllis Creighton
>      co-Chairs of SfP Working Group on Human Rights
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>Canadian officials duck UN Questions
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>Human rights committee accused Canadians of stonewalling queries on
>poverty, justice
>
>Ottawa Citizen, November 28, 1998
>By Aileen McCabe
>
>GENEVA- A Canadian delegation stonewalled, ducked questions and was as
>unco-operative as witnesses from undeveloped countries, says the committee
>examining Canada's compliance with the social, economic and cultural
>covenant of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
>
>"I say poor Canada.  Canada deserves better that this," said committee
>member Mahmund Ahmed, a retired Egyptian ambassador. "I don't think [the
>delegation] is doing justice to Canada."
>
>The delegation, led by the Canadian ambassador for disarmament, Mark Moher,
>and including officials from the departments of justice, immigration and
>heritage, said they were being "as co-operative and forthcoming as
>possible."  But after two days of questioning that ended yesterday,
>members of the  United Nations committee were astounded by what Mr. Ahmed
>called the "stonewalling".
>
>When asked his opinion, another committee member, Arirranga Pillay, the
>chief justice of the Supreme Court of Mauritius, said: "I haven't been
>satisfied with the answers.  There's a lot of waffling and sometimes you
>get the impression that they don't want to answer.  When they are cornered
>they just move on and that is it.  Maybe, they haven't done their homework
>properly or they are embarrassed at answering the obvious, which is that
>there is a great deal of poverty in Canada and yet it is such a rich country."
>
>Another committee member, Panama's Oscar Ceville, said the only time the
>committee had encountered such unco-operative witnesses was "with some
>undeveloped countries."
>
>John Foster, a University of Saskatchewan law professor who was in Geneva
>to convince the committee to question Canada on the human rights
>implications of the now-defunct Multilateral Agreement on Investments, said
>in a an interview that he was embarrassed by Canada's showing.
>"Even thought we're fighting (the Canadian government delegation) in some
>ways, there is a certain national pride in looking good," he said.
>
>Committee chairmen, Australian history professor Philip Alston, evaluated
>the Canadian performance: "of all the groups we've heard in the last
>week (Germany, Israel and Cyprus) there is a much greater level of
>generally not acknowledging any particular problems, giving answers that
>could be applied to any state." He said the committee was being fobbed-off
>with replies that consisted of phrases like "this is under review", "a
>study is underway" and "consultations are ongoing." It was left, he said,
>with a "a pile of generalities" from Canada, not answers.
>
>Mr. Moher was clearly furious with the criticism and refuted the claim, but
>Mr. Alston was not swayed. "Let me take up your challenge Mr. Ambassador",
>he drawled, and then proceeded to list a series of questions Canada had
>ducked, dodged or otherwise not answered.
>
>The committee members had been thoroughly briefed by Canadian pressure
>groups, socially active non-government organizations (NGO's) and over nine
>hours of hearing they asked questions that would leave many a Canadian
>cringing. They queried the high levels of poverty across the country.
>They put specific emphasis on poverty among women and asked about the
>effect that had on children.  They honed in on the growing instance of
>homelessness, quoting lamentable facts and figures.  They poked freely at
>some of the worst skeletons in Canada's closet, too, things like the
>conditions of native people on and off reserves and the general levels of
>literacy.
>
>After the heavy criticism of the delegation, Mr.Moher and his team
>appeared to change tactics for the last few hours of questioning.  They
>moved from "generalities" to reciting just about every federal program on
>the books that might possibly address the problems under the microscope.
>The tactic did not find favour. Exasperated, French committee member
>Philippe Textier quipped: "From these replies I get the impression we are
>being shown the woods, not the trees."
>
>The committee is expected to release its report on how well Canada is
>complying with the UN's social, economic and cultural covenant next Friday
>and there is little doubt now it will be scathing.  While annoyance with
>the Canadian delegation's replies may have hardened attitudes, the negative
>evaluation will have more to do with the federal government's focus on
>deficit-cutting since 1995 and the affect it has had on social spending.
>The federal government will certainly regret the embarrassment if it
>receives a failing UN grade, but the committee has no power to make it
>change policy or policy direction.
>
>Still, activists like Jacquie Ackerly, spokeswoman for the National
>Anti-poverty Organization, says the report is likely to make a difference
>because "it will give poor people and the NGO's that work with them
>something to work with, something to use in civil society to bring our case
>farther forward."
>




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