This may be one of those rare instance in which a son agrees with his 
father.

Ed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. James Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ed Weick'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Money, Energy transfers, Global Dumbing


>I agree with my father ... the scenario is not overwhelmingly rosy ...
> but wealthy nations may not be as seriously impacted in the short term,
> because they control resources, wealth and technology, but for how long?
>
> In contrast to what is expected ... this summer has been cooler in NL
> ... but coolness has been attributed, not reassuringly to the presence
> of greater concentrations of ice along the eastern seaboard as the polar
> ice cap continues to shrink at an increasing rate, now shedding
> peripheral regions.
>
> Despite this, and hopefully out of desperation SUV's and large trucks
> with V8's are increasingly affordable ... you can get a new one here in
> NL for ~$30K roughly the price of a high quality compact car that makes
> more environmental sense ... to cost of a fill up for large truck SUV is
> ~ $140 ... a tank of gas will get you 1/2 way across the island ... in
> contrast a compact that cost ~$60 to fill will get you all the way
> across the island ...
>
> When are we going to see the kind of political leadership that will
> finally regulate the auto industry, tax the hell out of gasoline;
> tripling current price levels would be a start in NA, and impose the
> kind stringent emission regulations on all industries required to
> effectively cut global emissions? In NA we will have to adjust but we
> can afford to do this... we are just too bloody ignorant.
>
> Walls are coming ... and sooner than we think ... the next couple of
> decades will see the end of the polar ice cap and a real drastic change
> in our perception of our place in this world...
>
> R. James Weick M.Sc. (Earth Sciences)
> 9 Edinburgh Street
> St. John's, NL A1C 4P8
> Cell: (709) 687-5985
> Phone: (709) 722-5257
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 17, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: futurework
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Money, Energy transfers, Global Dumbing
>
> I repeat what I said in an earlier posting: "It's not money, it's us".
> I
> won't repeat the rest of what I said, but it had something to do with us
>
> using anything we can, and certainly money, to make ourselves
> individually
> or tribally wealthier and more powerful.
>
> How might that be changed?  A few evenings ago I watched part of a TV
> interview of a man who kept insisting that to work properly a free
> enterprise economy needs three things: a market, a good set of laws
> governing market behaviour, and morality.  Being a religion guru, he
> kept
> emphasizing morality, and I can't say I disagree with him.  His general
> point was that we can all repeat little bits of catechism like the
> Golden
> Rule or "a penny saved is a penny earned" without having them have any
> impact on our behaviour.
>
> In economics 101, we were taught that money is supposed to be a medium
> of
> exchange and a store of value.  In its function as a medium of exchange,
> it
> was supposed to provide a sound and stable way of moving goods and
> services
> around the economy.  In today's world, ever so much of it is used to
> make a
> quick buck by trading our money for another currency or by betting that
> securities, many of dubious value, will go up in price in a relatively
> short
> time.  As a store of value, it has pretty well lost its meaning.  A
> dollar
> today ain't going to be a dollar tomorrow.
>
> So, what has to change?  I keep thinking about what the religion guru
> said
> about morality.  We have to change our way of doing things and to do
> that we
> have to change the way we think about things.  Can we?  At this stage of
>
> development as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, I doubt very much that we can.  We
> have
> been liberated from the trees and given new toys, but that's about it.
>
> Yet some things do seem to work when one thinks of cases like Conrad
> Black,
> Enron and WorldCom.  Cheaters and chiselers have been indicted.  But
> will
> that change us?   Again, I seriously doubt it.  For every way that's
> stopped, new ways of cheating and chiseling will be found.
>
> Complicating everything is the fact that we have now become thoroughly
> globalized.  What we can't produce here, we can produce over there.
> What we
> can't get away with here, we can get away with over there, etc.
>
> When it comes to resource use, it's become pretty obvious that we are
> going
> to hit a wall -- perhaps a series of walls.  I notice in today's paper
> that
> the price of food is rising rapidly, making it more difficult to provide
>
> food aid to the third world poor.  A reason given is that agricultural
> land
> is moving from food to ethanol production.  And if we haven't already
> arrived at peak oil yet, we will soon and begin the downward slide to
> the
> unaffordability of the many things we now take for granted.
>
> Which brings me back to morality.  I believe we become more moral when
> we
> absolutely have to, not before.  I sometimes toy with a dreamlike
> scenario.
> We hit a series of walls and then hit a big one that brings us down into
> a
> dark world like the one Cormac McCarthy depicts in his Pulitzer Prize
> winning novel "The Road".  Those of us who are left will wend our way up
> to
> the monastery on the hill and there we will plant potatoes, carrots and
> onions and learn to live together cooperatively and peacefully.  We will
>
> have found a livable morality.  At least for a time.
>
> Ed
>

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