Natalia replied: > > > Women are ready for a woman in the White House. It's the men who tote > > > most of the guns in this world, who are not. > > > > Excuse me, how many women voted for Ms. LaDuke (Nader's VP candidate) > > in 2000 ? Around 1% ? (And she was not even shot by the system...) > > $$$ I said since the latest out on Bush, so LaDuke was before this time. > Converts will be a significant number. I doubt they will solely turn the > tide.
I thought it was "the men who tote most of the guns in this world" already before Dubya. Even if we assume that "the latest out on Bush" changed women's minds on voting for men (after the latest out on the 42 previous male presidents didN'T change their mind!), it would seem that they can only vote for women if there actually are female candidates (except the Supreme Court pulls out a new trick in 2004 and selects someone who was not even a candidate... but this seems pretty unlikely, considering the Supreme Court's conservative composition). OTOH, since you wrote that >>> though 2004 is not the year for a female candidate for president, do not >>> doubt for a minute that there are real leaders who are women who could >>> do a far better job. Unfortunately, the current system would have any such >>> elligible shot at once, and so their life is best spent alive enlightening >>> the little men who would otherwise grow up to be snipers. ..., it seems you're stuck with "disallowing even yourself a vision of real change" in the White House. > Your notion of what meditation is for is born in a familiar > predjudice, and you confuse cultism/fanaticism with a form of relaxation > and mental enhancement. At least some Buddhists seem to confuse these 2 as well... > > That too, and practices like monks having to run zillions of miles and > > those who don't make it have to commit suicide. (read something like that > > recently) > > $$$ That's not real Buddhism, it's fanaticism, dogma that gives religions a > bad name, or government control over religion. I don't know, but maybe you should tell the Buddhist leaders who have been practicing this race over centuries that "That's not real Buddhism". Maybe if y'all meditate long enough, you can come to an agreement on what Real Buddhism(TM) is... > > > what do you propose we do about the world being owned by about some six > > > companies? > > > Living like I do could be a start. But I never attended a meditation > > course. > > $$$ Please elaborate. All I know is that you do not operate a vehicle. (Ahemm... bicycles are vehicles too, although the AAA thinks they're toys.) The keyword here is "frugalism", a radical non-consumerism that liberates from the ballasts of unnecessary gadgets and most of the treadmill. This way of life includes diet (a light vegetarian (near-vegan) cuisine) and yes, a focus on awareness (with a maths background that knows the difference between nonlinear thinking and illogical thinking, hint hint). > > Where did I say that I believe [that humanity is doomed to be robotic] ?? > > $$$ When you are cynical about how helpful things can be used, and > keep bringing the topic back to the downside, rather than allowing good > comments to take their course, you are buying into the corporate > supreme power-over as permanent, disallowing even yourself a vision > of real change. I'm _living_ a vision of real change (in a country that represents real change, compared to the rest), so you're wrong about this. > > I have yet to see a "quit smoking" course that *works* by teaching > > meditation. If that would work, meditation teachers could become > > pretty famous (and rich). Seems it's just wishful thinking. > > $$$ The most successful quitters have changed their thoughts about the > value of cigarettes. Quit cold turkey. The meditation courses to quit > smoking are not real meditation courses. First Buddhism wasn't Real Buddhism(TM) and now meditation isn't Real Meditation(TM). Will the Real Meditation(TM) teachers please stand up and offer a Real Meditation(TM) course to quit smoking? You could make a lot of people happy (and get rich too) and convince everyone of the authenticity of the claims. (Let's see if wishful thinking can overcome _physical_ addiction, without simply substituting one addiction with another.) > The purpose of a genuine course would have inner peace as > its primary goal, and this cannot be experienced in a fortnight > to last a lifetime. Then spread the course over months or so. There'll still be takers if success with Real Meditation(TM) is so sure. > > > ***Advertising works. It's the manipulation surrounding it that needs > > > to be addressed. > > > Then let me rephrase the question: Would the "manipulation surrounding > > it" be different in a matriarchal society ? > > $$$ Same answer. Sure, and expectedly the case once women entering > politics start to transform the real purpose of leadership. Competing with > men by patriarchal rules will not elevate women significantly, nor will it > bring change that gives value to women or governance. Please expand on the different (female) manipulation surrounding advertising. Cheers, Chris _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
