Geez you're good at this stuff.   Thanks!
 
REH
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 3:04 PM
Subject: [Futurework] Iraq Realities (was Ramadan....)

Greetings, Harry,
 
There are several truths about Iraq, and they are only superficially incongruent. In fact, they are all aspects of the same situation.
 
1. Yes, it is quite possible for Westerners and even Americans to travel about Iraq safely. The prerequisites are that the visitor not be associated with the US/UK invasion, that he be in sync logistically with what daily life has devolved to, and that he fit within the patterns of traditional Iraqi welcome and hospitality.  None of these prerequisites are hard to meet.
 
2. For those who are there with the invasion, they are, to put it simply, targets. This will get worse and worse, to the point the US seeks a way out. It may be like the infamous retreat from Viet Nam -- the fatal and egotistic "peace with Honor" demanded by Nixon and Kissinger. May they answer for the tens of thousands of lives that were lost as a result. Or it may be like the retreat from Mogadishu, clean and politically courageous though embarrassing.  With Bush and advisors, it is most likely to be the former, if Bush is still around to preside over the defeat.
 
3. Iraqis who collaborate with the US are in jeopardy, and there will be some Iraqis who make a point of harassing and from time to time killing them. These people are viewed as traitors, though some believe that they are helping create conditions in which the US will leave.
 
4. Iraq and the US invasion will increasingly serve as a magnet to people who are willing to use force against the American presence in the Middle East and the Muslim world generally.  In the same way that Muslims from all over the world went to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, so will they go to fight the US in Iraq. No one should be surprised by this, nor view it as a 'new' reality.  But it is important to realize that the glamour of 'foreign fighters' not withstanding, as in Afghanistan, the strength and bulk of resistance to the US occupation of Iraq comes from the Iraqis themselves. They have plenty of technical military skill, weapons, war materials, training, communication networks and motivation to do it all themselves. Foreign assistance will be welcomed and much public relations advantage gained for them -- solidarity, etc. --
 
5. Generally,  Iraqis do not want the US to remain in Iraq. No one there is impressed with the 'we are here to help', 'we are bringing democracy' nonsense.  Of course, many Iraqis are delighted with the US' willingness to pour billions into Iraq and will be happy to receive portions of that. But this does not translate into approval of the US invasion or presence. This is a fundamental reality that US policy-makers seem blissfully unaware of, and part of the overwhelming ignorance that pervades US knowledge of Iraq and the Middle East, generally.
 
6. To the extent that Westerners start to understand Iraq and the Middle East, they light of some exotic-sounding factoid, and then see everything that happens through that perspective. Nowhere is this more evident in the discovery of shi'is, sunnis, Ba'athists, the 'Sunni Triangle', Marsh Arabs, etc. The reality is that none of these support the US/UK invasion of presence. Left alone, I think the chances of a civil war are extremely low, though I would guess that we would see quite a bit of old scores being evened.  The US presence skews and undermines the process of Iraq rebuilding itself, as we are 'playing favorites', forcing many Iraqis into collaborating (if only by dangling money in front of them), and pushing some into guerilla actions against the occupying forces, and all the social dynamics that go along with that.
 
7. We can foresee Arab-Kurdish fighting, I think. And I don't think that -- stay or leave -- the US will be able to prevent that. For many decades, Western powers have tried to favor one ethnic group in the Middle East over another, and it has never succeeded.  Past examples of such efforts include: Armenia, Kurds, Greeks (in Anatolia), Hashemites, Maronites, Copts, French pieds-noirs in Algeria, Berbers in Morocco, and Turkish Cypriots. We have a current example in Palestine, where the West supported Jewish-Zionist migration and where, it is becoming increasingly clear, only disaster awaits.
 
8. All but the hard-core Ba'athists were delighted to get rid of Saddam Hussein -- no doubt about that!  But that does not mean that the US is welcome to stay.  The Iraqis are a pretty sophisticated people, compared to Americans, and are far more able to rebuild their country than anyone else.  The notion that they need outside help is, to put it simply, laughable, though it would be nice if the US and others compensated Iraq for the economic suffering and destruction caused by the sanctions and invasion.
 
Best regards,
Lawry
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, October 31, 2003 9:51 PM
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] Ramadan a launch date for global terror?

Lawry,
 
Keith, in particular, was not very happy about my posting Stein's article, in which he wandered around the hinterland of Iraq, including Saddam land and the northern oilfield, apparently without being harmed or even fearing harm.
 
This, because Stein's truth was not the revealed truth of most of the journalists who report on Iraq. Then I posted, Jon North of England's Channel four who visited Baghdad, expecting the worst (like many UK news outlets, bad news is good news). He spent the day at the races along with thousands of other Iraqis. The biggest danger seemed to be emptying your wallet. Maybe things are not so bad as some people hope that are.
 
This anti-Bush fervore really prevents people from thinking and observing.
 
One notes that a couple of people with rifles practically brought DC to its knees. I would place the happenings in Iraqi in the same category.
 
Relatively few people -- with some certainly from across the borders -- causing lots of trouble.
 
Serious? Certainly, because they kill people and cause heavy damage.
 
Absolute disaster? No, it's just something to be dealt with.
 
Harry
 
 

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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] Ramadan a launch date for global terror?

So Lawry who do you trust?
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From: Lawrence DeBivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:18 AM
To: Karen Watters Cole; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Ramadan a launch date for global terror?

Good morning Karen and all,
 
After a interesting start some time back, "Stratfor" has revealed itself as predominantly interested in Israeli affairs.This means that everything that touches on Israel's security is viewed through an Israel-first perspective. This is another of those. The subject of terrorism has been one of the topics so exploited.  The writer reveals himself ignorant of:
 
1. Ramadan and its meaning
2. Terror organizations, their capabilities and their communications
3. Al-Qaida
 
The US will find it useful to blame resistance in Iraq on 'bad guys', including 'foreign fighters.' By doing so, the US hopes to regalvanize domestic support for our actions in Iraq.  But keep in mind that the US does not have much of a local human intelligence capability in the Middle East. We depend much on others to tell us what is going on there. Like the "WMD" fakery, the US is prone to be taken in on other matters, including 'foreign fighters' and 'global terrorism'. The difference this time around may be that our journalists, having been burnt once, may this time insist on some of the first-hand checking of facts that journalists are supposed to do.
 
Meanwhile, I would recommend a healthy dose of skepticism on anything coming from "Startfor".
 
Best regards,
Lawry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Karen Watters Cole
Sent: Thu, October 30, 2003 8:28 AM
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Subject: [Futurework] Ramadan a launch date for global terror?

Stratfor Weekly (free intel) 10.27.03: Ramadan attacks raise fears of global violence

Key selected excerpts:

 

"The string of attacks in Iraq raises an alarming question for U.S. and other Western countries fighting al Qaeda: Were these attacks a symbolic trigger -- a message from al Qaeda to its allies around the globe -- to kickstart a campaign of attacks against Western allies, assets and infrastructure across the globe? Although the answer currently is unclear, the bombings will cause Western governments and businesses to respond as though Ramadan will be a month of bloodletting.

 

...The ability of militant Islamist organizations to act in concert on a global scale is a critical concern for the United States and its allies. Washington's war against al Qaeda is in part psychological, and both sides need to demonstrate that the other cannot operate globally without substantial risk. Al Qaeda hopes to raise the costs of U.S. involvement in the Gulf region high enough that Washington will pull out. The United States needs to break al Qaeda's global network so that it eventually can back the group's leadership into a geographic corner, lock it down and finally quash its operational capability.

 

... Who carried out the attacks remains unclear, and the suspect list is long. The multiple attacks, coordinated within a 45-minute window and targeting sites in the central, north, south and western parts of the city, indicate that the group responsible is sophisticated, has a solid knowledge of the areas and experience in planning and logistics necessary for carrying out such operations.

 

...Decision-makers in Washington, London, Canberra, Madrid and elsewhere will be desperate to know the answers to these questions: Were these attacks dictated solely by local issues? Were they conducted by the Sunni guerrillas or foreign fighters? Are they tied only to the U.S. occupation in Iraq, or are they meant to signal to groups -- such as the Jemaah Islamiyah in Indonesia, the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat in Algeria and the Aden-Abyan Army in Yemen or sleeper cells in the United States -- to launch their own attacks against Westerners and their allies?

 

Al Qaeda is a global network but also an operational unit formerly based in Afghanistan that might still be directing attacks against the United States and its allies in the Gulf. Al Qaeda Prime, the senior leadership's operating unit based in Afghanistan -- which conducted the Sept. 11 attacks and other major operations -- has never used symbolic dates for operational activities.

 

... Al Qaeda Prime still needs to show that it continues to survive if it hopes to take the war against the Americans beyond the Gulf. Using the start of Ramadan as an agreed launch date for a global terrorism campaign would resonate with radicals throughout the world.

 

.. Western governments are worried about Ramadan attacks. Australia, Britain and the United States all warned their citizens within the last few days of specific plots in Saudi Arabia........A spate of bombings in Los Angeles, New Delhi, Rio de Janeiro, Madrid and Sydney would serve as a remarkable victory for al Qaeda and a mortal blow to the U.S. war against terrorism. (end of excerpts. Attached in full)

 

 

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