At 11:33 28/11/03 -0500, you wrote:
Good point, Arthur.
What I have never understood, though, is this thing of breathing in AND out. I mean, wouldn't that just cancel everything out? Like, why bother? Well, OK, some argue that we do need oxygen. I can accept that, at least in theory. But then why not just breathe in? You know, do half the work, and therefore live twice as long. Seems to me that that would make lots of sense.
But that's exactly what happens anyway! Our diaphragm muscles do the work of breathing out -- breathing in happens of its own accord. (Nature abhors a vacuum or some such.) My problem these days is that I'm a magnificent breather-out, but my lungs don't want to breath in too much. (My vacuity is lessening these days instead of increasing.)
Keith
Cheers,
Lawry
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And I understand that breathing in and out seems to correllate very strongly with eventual death. It seems there is a perfect fit between breathing in and out and eventual death. We have the best minds working on this very interesting research problem.
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I did some research -- the numbers are available if you are willing to really look for them -- and the news is really a lot worse. The simple truth is that most lives end in death, I calculate about 98%, plus or minus 4%. This is based on careful sampling, and, though it may seem counter-intuitive, seems to be true of all cultures. Also, I found out that Eskimos have many words for death, if you include euphemisms.
There is also some research that suggests that if enough people die, then more will die -- a sort of 100th Monkey effect.
Cheers,
Lawry
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Bill,
Good!
What I was reacting to - as you know - is the deliberate attack on marriage as a sometime thing. Marriages and divorces in a year are supposed to show that marriage is on the rocks.
You seem to adopt my attitude. When in doubt, count.
Since you came in to the discussion so well, I think I am going to broadcast the appalling statistic that half of all marriages end in death!
That should stop people from getting married.
Harry
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Harry, you are correct if you consider ever divorced, viz:
Young Adults Were Postponing Marriage
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The proportion of divorced persons increased markedly at
the national level in recent decades, but the increases were
not the same for all areas of the country. In fact, by 1990,
sharp regional and State differences were noted in the
prevalence of divorce (see map).
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One measure often used to highlight the differences in the
level of divorce is the divorce ratio, defined as the number
of divorced persons per 1,000 married persons living with
their spouse.
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The West had the highest divorce ratio of any region
in 1990, with 182 divorced persons per 1,000 persons
in intact marriages. In contrast, the Northeast had the
lowest ratio (130 per 1,000). The ratios for the South and
Midwest were 156 and 151, respectively.
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Not surprisingly, Nevada led the States in 1990 with the
highest divorce ratio (268 per 1,000), more than double the ratio for North Dakota (101), with the lowest.
If you divide all divorces by all marriages, you get a higher figure. I'm looking for that.
Bill
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