I much enjoyed your account of Joe, too.
But, if I may, let me just select one thing from it -- when you asked Joe:
"Does Max [G. Spencer] Brown really make any sense?"
What did he say?
In times past I have spent weeks and weeks puzzling over his system and what it really means. It's beautiful in all sorts of ways and, in fact, I used it in some papers I wrote about the cortex about 15 years ago. But, just like quantum theory which no one understands, though physicists use it, I used Spencer-Brown's system but didn't understand it! I felt intuitively it was right because it was so succinct and all-ecompassing. If Joe explained it then I would love to know what he said.
Keith
At 11:38 13/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Loved your account, Keith. Good thing you are getting old enough to write
it <grin>.
I never applied to Mensa and wouldn't qualify.
The smartest person I ever knew worked as a mail carrier. It gave him time
to think about things while he making his rounds. I met him when he showed
up one day to apply to a group home. My housemates rejected him as too
weird, but Joe and I became friends. We talked about mathematical concepts,
or rather I asked questions and he answered. I would ask things like "Is a
number a point or a distance?" and "Would a quaternary computer work better
than a binary one?" and "Does Max [G. Spencer] Brown really make any sense?"
and "Would a base-8 numerical system be inferior to the base-10 one?" and he
would ponder a bit and then launch into erudite, lilting, gesticulating
explanations that were way above my head. He confused the naiveté' and
gibberish of my questions with depth and so put up with me.
He lived, aside from our occasional meetings, a solitary life with no other
friends. But he seemed happy enough, if perplexed by the general behavior of
his fellow human beings. He rented for a pittance a tiny room in the
basement of a downtown hotel. The room had pipes of all sizes running though
it, some hot and some cold, some hissing and some grunting, and Joe had
placed boards on the pipes as shelves, and hung one hanger for his uniform.
He had many jars of dried fruit and nuts and that was all he ate.
I began to travel and we lost touch. I wonder what became of him, and how he
is doing today.
Lawry
> Keith Hudson
> Sent: Sat, December 13, 2003 9:25 AM
> Subject: [Futurework] They've lost my IQ score!
>
>
> The following FT article about Mensa, the high IQ-score society,
> reminds me
> that I have a beef with this organisation. As a young man, I took
> the Mensa
> test because, at the time, I didn't quite know where or what I
> was and was
> beginning to doubt my own sanity in a mild sort of way. As the
> most junior
> of all junior clerks in a local government department I was shy, largely
> lacking in confidence and found that my working colleagues and
> bosses would
> throw curious side-glances at me when they saw the sorts of books and
> magazines I was carrying about with me and reading at lunch-time. So I
> quickly learned to hide whatever I was reading inside run-of-the-mill
> newpapers and pretended to read the latter instead. I don't suppose that
> fooled them one little bit, and they must have thought my furtive
> behaviour
> was all the more strange. Also, whenever I was supposed to be carrying
> important pieces of paper from one place to another in my home town, I
> would slope off to the reference department of the town's central library
> and feast myself for an hour on the magazines and journals there which I
> couldn't have afforded or, indeed, didn't know existed otherwise.
>
> I had an intensely embarrassing experience on one occasion. I was sitting
> reading a magazine whose title I can't now remember with a stack
> of two or
> three more beside me which I was going to rifle through before going back
> to the office. On the top of the stack was The Hibbert Journal and,
> suddenly, it was lifted into the air by a man who appeared at my side. I
> saw that he was one of my bosses. He leafed through it, replaced the
> journal, gave me one of those looks which I had learned to
> receive so well
> and said: "M'mm .... going into the church, are we, Hudson?". And then he
> walked away, leaving me to hastily replace the magazines on their shelves
> and scoot back to the office. Fortunately, he was a
> middle-ranking boss and
> didn't rat on me. In fact, he treated me rather kindly after that in the
> office, and more than once hinted that if I were to resume going to the
> library again he wouldn't let on.
>
> But I was greatly mixed up. All my friends from school had gone to
> university but my parents thought I had to get a job and,
> besides, I hadn't
> been an academic success, to say the least. In fact, I hated school,
> because it was putting on airs and graces then as it was trying
> to become a
> member of the Independent Conference (called a public school in England).
> So that's why, a few years later, I took the Mensa test in case
> it gave me
> some clues about myself. In fact, I found the home-test so easy
> that when I
> took the subsequent, strictly supervised test (something which Sathnam
> Sanghera doesn't mention in the article below, so I question the
> IQ figure
> that's mentioned) I reckoned that I could guess the marking
> system that the
> test used. (If I remember rightly, two marks per correct answer in the
> first section would give exactly 100, so I then guessed at five marks per
> correct answer for the second section.) The first section was
> easy, but the
> second section was difficult. I knew the questions I could answer, and I
> knew the questions I couldn't answer, so I guessed those and applied a
> marking factor for those. I then wrote my IQ at the top of the
> answer paper
> before handing it in.
>
> To my surprise, or perhaps not, I found that the IQ score I had given
> myself turned out to be plumb in the middle of the IQ range they
> gave me a
> few days later in the post, together with my membership card. Well, I
> enjoyed those Mensa pub meetings. For the first time in my life I
> was with
> people who tended to read the same sorts of books and magazines
> that I did.
> But it was obvious then that Mensa was really a sort of marriage bureau
> and, as I was already taken for by then, I dropped out after a
> few months.
> But apart from the Plymouth Brother chapel to which I had belonged many
> years previously as a teenager, I had found myself, for the first time in
> my life, with people I liked and who accepted me as one of their
> own. So I
> owe Mensa a great deal actually and I get rather irritated when I come
> across people who scorn Mensa -- I don't mean dim people but those who
> would obviously pass a Mensa test but haven't the courage to try it just
> for the experience. (I suppose Americans who have taken a SAT
> don't need a
> formal IQ test.)
>
> I returned to Mensa more than 20 years later when I had become
> divorced and
> in a new town where I didn't know anybody. I wrote to the Mensa office,
> they looked up my IQ score in their filing system and gave me a new
> membership card. Learning that the Bath group had dissolved a few years
> before, I appointed myself chairman of a new branch, wrote around to Bath
> Mensans, invited them to my flat, gave them coffee and biscuits,
> persuaded
> them to appoint a competent group secretary and then resigned as chairman
> all on the same evening. Once again, I enjoyed the meetings but didn't
> attend them for more than a few months because I moved away from
> Bath for a
> while after that.
>
> A couple of years ago I decided to re-join Mensa. The subject had come up
> on Futurework List and, as I had recently left the two choirs in which I
> used to sing because I had no more puff left for long phrases and was in
> wont of new social activities, I decided to attend Mensa meetings again
> here in Bath -- assuming that they were continuing. Indeed they were, I
> discovered, but the Mensa office wouldn't let me rejoin! It was
> not because
> they needed proof that my IQ had not sunk too low for membership -- which
> it very probably has by now -- but because they had lost their
> records. At
> least, it seemed that they had lost the records for the years when I'd
> originally joined. So there we are. I'm now ex-Mensan without a
> current IQ.
>
> Why have I written all this? Well, partly as a jolly -- to recollect, as
> old people boringly tend to do -- but also to remind ourselves
> (that is, if
> you're still with me) that we're moving into a high-tech society now.
> Increasingly, the lower-skill jobs are being automated, whether
> in retail,
> service or manufacturing jobs, and those that are not automating
> so far are
> tending to go abroad to China or India, and we are going to be
> increasingly
> dependent on a high IQ, high-tech proportion of the population.
> There'll be
> a residue of low skill jobs remaining, of course, and there'll be a
> middle-skill band of jobs like plumbing, electrical work and
> suchlike, but
> the value-creating and value-sustaining work will increasingly be
> done by a
> minority which I'd put at about 20% now, but rising to something like 30%
> in due course. But that will probably be the limit if only because there
> won't be enough bright people to fill those jobs.
>
> So what should we do? Well, I think we should remember that although very
> bright parents tend to produce bright children they are only ordinarily
> bright, as it were, and, in turn their children are probably, on average,
> going to be fairly near the average IQ of the whole population.
> Randomness
> means that a convection current takes very high IQ (as also very
> low IQ) to
> the middle within three or four generations at the most. Intelligence is
> very much a matter of a fairly random re-arrangement of the genes
> responsible for brain development. Looking at the population as a whole,
> the brightest and the dimmest tend to produce children in the
> middle range,
> while it is the mass of people in the middle who throw up the
> subnormal IQs
> and also those very few geniuses on whom civilisation has depended.
>
> There are two alternative scenarios for tomorrow's world. We
> either try to
> recreate natural communities again in which we all look after one another
> on a local scale (doing it on a national scale is already proving to be a
> financial failure) or we carry on as we are by having increasingly
> efficient methods of selecting intelligent individuals and then scooping
> them away from where they were born, sending them to university and then
> onwards to the ends of the earth -- these days quite literally so. The
> problem with the latter scenario is that if technological development
> proceeds increasingly rapidly -- as it has done during the last
> century --
> then the convection currents of IQ distribution from one generation to
> another as described above decreasingly applies.
>
> The high IQ portion of the population, instead of merging into the mass,
> will tend to remain distinct from the rest. Not only this, but the
> persistent use of selection for education as applied to the less talented
> part of the population in order to find the increasngly rare genius will
> act as a ratchet. In fact, it will be exactly the same effect that the
> viscissitudes of our environment have had on the whole evolution
> of man as
> we and the chimpanzees broke away from the original common stock.
> In those
> times, the less succeeful were culled -- pretty tout de suite --
> but in our
> day, at least so far, we are carrying an increasingly larger part of a
> dependent population and keeping them in reasonably good health. At least
> they are not dying in large numbers. Not yet anyway.
>
> So we have a choice. Either we revert to the small communities of
> the past,
> to which our behavioural instincts already predispose us and in which we
> look after one another -- though thankful when the occasional very bright
> individual is born (who will be increasingly able to be educated to the
> very highest levels of scholarship on the Internet) -- or we
> continue with
> the present selective tendency which takes them away from the
> community and
> run the risk of producing two sub-species. Once this proceeds too
> far then
> we know from evolutionary studies of many species that this form of
> brachiation (known as sympatric speciation) cannot then be prevented. It
> will proceed at a rapid pace.
>
> Just one correction should be made to Sathnam Sanghera's article. Mensans
> are not geniuses and some geniuses would not pass the Mensa test. Some
> geniuses are very bright, of course, often far above the entry level for
> Mensa. But some are not. Genius is about obsessiveness in choosing
> particular problems and persistence in tackling them. They shake
> a problem
> to pieces as a dog does with a rat. This is what I am attempting to do in
> the subject of economics because I think it is about time that it
> established itself as a science like several other humanistic disciplines
> have done recently. While I am certainly an ex-Mensan, I am not sure yet
> whether I am a genius.
>
> Keith Hudson
>
> <<<<
> IS MENSA DUMBING DOWN?
>
> Sathnam Sanghera
>
> The other week I learned something new and rather exciting about myself I
> am a genius. At the invitation of Mensa, I spent 45 minutes completing
> their Home Test, the first step you need to take to join the high IQ
> society, sent it off in the post to be marked, and waited for the result.
>
> A letter came back a few days later saying I had an IQ of 155. To
> put this
> in a bit of context the average IQ is 100; to qualify for Mensa, which
> takes only the top 2 per cent of the population, you need an IQ of 148 or
> above. A score of 155 puts me in the top 1 per cent. In short, I am very
> clever indeed.
>
> But while this happy letter from Mensa confirmed what I had
> always quietly
> suspected, it presented a problem. I had also got four colleagues to
> complete the Home Test and was now terrified that they had fared
> worse than
> me. I would have to tell them my brilliant score, they would have to face
> the fact that they were not as bright as me, and, frankly, it would be
> awkward. Nobody likes a show-off.
>
> My heart skipped a beat as they opened their respective envelopes. FT
> columnist Lucy Kellaway was first. It was a relief to see the
> slight smirk
> she had got 155 too. management editor Mike Skapinker was next.
> Again, that
> giveaway smug grin. 155 too. Then it was Paul Solman, the deputy features
> editor. A self-satisfied smile. 155. Ditto for employment correspondent
> David Turner.
>
> In one way it was the ideal result - none of us were exposed as being
> measurably dimmer than the rest. But I couldn't help feeling
> deflated. It's
> fun being a genius, but when everyone around you is a genius too,
> it's not
> so exciting. I began wondering about the accuracy of the Mensa test. Lucy
> Kellaway, the genius that she is, did a calculation on the back of an
> envelope showing that the likelihood of us all having an IQ of 155 was
> somewhere around one in 24m.
>
> I fired off an e-mail to John Stevenage, the chief executive of Mensa,
> asking why we had all attained the same fantastic score. His prompt reply
> listed several possible explanations we all work for the same clever
> newspaper so a high score is "quite possible" (our favourite
> explanation);
> some of us might not have kept very strictly to the allotted 45 minutes
> (our least favourite explanation); the Home Test is only a trial
> indicator
> - in order to formally join Mensa you need to pass a more reliable
> supervised IQ test, or submit a qualifying test score from an
> approved test.
>
> But my genius colleagues and I came up with an alternative theory
> Mensa is
> so desperate for members that it flatters people who complete the
> free Home
> Test in the hope that they will then sit a supervised IQ test and become
> paid-up members. It's a horrible, cynical thing to suggest about a great
> British institution such as Mensa - but could it be true? Surely Mensa
> isn't that desperate?
>
> Unfortunately, membership figures for the society, which was set
> up in 1946
> by Lancelot Ware, a postgraduate Oxford student, and Roland Berrill, an
> Australian with a private fortune, suggest that it might be.
> Membership in
> the UK currently stands at a lowly 26,247 - the lowest figure in
> 15 years,
> more than 17,400 below the figure 10 years ago, when membership
> reached an
> all-time high of 43,652. While Mensa has a worldwide membership
> of 98,861,
> British Mensa, the heart and home of the society, is in a very
> sorry state
> indeed.
>
> So what has gone wrong? Well, pretty much everything. Mensa did very well
> for a period between 1980 and 1997, when Sir Clive Sinclair was chairman,
> growing from about 8,000 members to about 36,000 when he stepped
> down. The
> expansion was the result of Sinclair's high public profile in the 1980's
> and the work of chief executive Harold Gale, who aggressively increased
> membership by placing Mensa puzzles and adverts in newspapers.
>
> But things went very wobbly in the mid-1990's when Gale was
> unceremoniously
> sacked for running a small puzzle business out of Mensa offices.
> Though his
> appeal to an industrial tribunal was successful, he never got over the
> depression generated by the publicity. In 1997 the 55-year-old drove his
> car into a railway bridge support arch. The official verdict was
> accidental
> death, but those close to him believe he took his own life.
> Before setting
> out he had left a note on his kitchen table. "It would have been better,"
> he was reported to have written, "if Sir Clive and the Mensa
> committee had
> put a contract out on me than let me endure the last two years."
>
> Things continued to fall apart when Sir Clive was in 1997 replaced as
> chairman by Julie Baxter, a sociable 45-year-old from Lancashire,
> the first
> ever female chairman of Mensa. In 1998 she resigned following a
> vote of no
> confidence passed at the society's annual meeting in Bournemouth. She had
> already been sacked once before by the board but was reinstated by the
> membership. She finally left threatening to set up a rival organisation,
> complaining that Mensa's leaders were "sexist, manipulative and bullying"
> and that there were "dark forces at work".
>
> Speaking at the Mensa headquarters in Wolverhampton, where the society's
> collapse in membership has left the premises partially empty (they are
> looking for smaller offices), Mensa's current leadership - 47-year-old
> chief executive John Stevenage, and 55-year-old chairman Sylvia
> Herbert, a
> freelance PR consultant, admit that Mensa has been through a very
> difficult
> period. "In 1999 membership numbers were in freefall," says
> Stevenage. "It
> was a bit like stopping the Titanic going down. But we seem to have
> stabilised now."
>
> Asked to explain why membership has collapsed so spectacularly, the two
> reel off contributing factors Mensa suffered as a result of bad publicity
> over the Gale and Baxter affairs; the society can no longer afford to run
> adverts in the papers ("money got tight in the 1990's"); the
> membership fee
> has increased from £25 to £40; people have an increasingly large
> choice of
> things to do with their leisure time. But there is, I would suggest,
> another possibility Mensa has a serious, almost insurmountable image
> problem. Rather than having cachet, membership of Mensa is now
> considered a
> mark of social inadequacy.
>
> Again, it's a horrible thing to suggest, but I attended a recent Mensa
> social evening in London to see whether or not my prejudices were well
> placed. There are countless Mensa social meetings taking place
> every month
> - many of them, called Special Interest Groups, focus on particular areas
> of interest, ranging from board games to bible study to greyhound racing.
> The meeting I went to was a fairly unexotic new members meeting in a pub
> just off Oxford Street.
>
> As with nearly all Mensa gatherings, the men outnumbered the women around
> two to one. And not everyone, of course, was a social misfit. But there
> were certainly more than your average proportion of eccentrics in the
> crowd. One middle-aged man arrived dressed in a yellow running top and
> tight black hotpants, looking a little like one of the guys from that 118
> 118 advert (On asking whether he had just come back from a jog, I
> was told
> "No, that's his casualwear."). There was also an elderly gentleman in a
> tweed jacket who was using a tie as a belt.
>
> When I asked a few members why they had joined, they all,
> invariably, gave
> the same answers to prove that they were intelligent, despite having no
> flash academic qualifications; to meet like-minded people
> socially. Some of
> them had even met their long-term partners through Mensa. It
> confirmed what
> has long been said about the society, that it is essentially a
> social club
> or even a dating agency for nerds - "somewhere for egg-heads to
> get laid",
> or rather, somewhere for eggheads with chips on their shoulders to get
> laid. The last thing I witnessed as I left the meeting were two members
> snogging each other to death at the bar.
>
> "Mensa is essentially a social thing," says Herbert, who was recently the
> face of Mensa in the BBC's IQ experiment, Test the Nation, and who
> enthusiastically reveals that Mensa has heard of seven
> engagements between
> members in the past 12 months. "If you have a high intellect sometimes
> you're not understood by the general population. At Mensa you will find
> like-minded people who will laugh at your jokes and that sort of thing."
>
> However, when it was originally founded, with the aim of
> recruiting the top
> 1 per cent, rather than the top 2 per cent of the most intelligent people
> in Britain, Mensa wasn't just perceived as a social club. There
> was talk of
> members possibly advising governments. Even now it officially it
> has three
> aims, of which only one is "to provide a stimulating social
> environment for
> its members". The other two aims are "to identify and foster human
> intelligence for the benefit of humanity" and "to encourage research into
> the nature, characteristics, and uses of intelligence".
>
> Many Mensans have tried to get the society to do something
> useful, in line
> with these latter aims, but efforts rarely get anywhere. In 1990
> there was
> talk of setting up a school in London for gifted children, but it didn't
> happen. A while back a prominent member talked about setting up a sperm
> bank, but that didn't happen either. A few years ago, Mensa
> International,
> the umbrella organisation (national branches are almost completely
> independent of each other) launched Mensa Intellectual Capital
> Ventures, to
> offer advice to members who wanted to convert ideas and inventions into
> reality. Nothing has hit the market yet.
>
> And this, perhaps, is the main reason why Mensa is doing so
> badly. It lacks
> a sense of purpose. What is the point of a bunch of people with high IQ's
> getting together? And surely IQ tests simply measure one's
> competence at IQ
> tests rather indicating real "intelligence"? Besides, with the internet,
> nerds now have thousands of opportunities to get in touch with
> each other -
> ways that don't require the hassle of an IQ test.
>
> Mensa's leadership, of course, reject the suggestion that Mensa's
> time may
> have been and gone. They say membership levels are stabilising,
> that a new
> website next year will boost recruitment, and that it is becoming
> fashionable to be clever. Stevenage is confident that Mensa can expand
> commercially the international organisation has just signed a new global
> publishing deal to release Mensa puzzle books, it is working on
> releasing a
> Mensa board game, and Stevenage is pushing the Mensa brand into
> new areas.
> "There's lots of potential - we could do IQ testing for companies."
>
> But Jane Baxter, the former Mensa chairman who was ousted a
> couple of years
> ago, is not optimistic. "Where is Mensa going? Nowhere," declares
> the woman
> who now runs an internet-based society called Atticus, designed
> to "explore
> emotional intelligence in relation to religion, psychology and
> philosophy."
> "It's outdated. There's a lot of social and professional mobility and
> people just don't have a need for it. It's sad but I just don't
> think it's
> very relevant."
>
> Harsh words, no doubt coloured by bitterness and rejection. But I can't
> help thinking she may have a point. And what I think must count for
> something -- I am a genius after all.
>
> Financial Times -- 12 December 2003
> >>>>
>
>
> Keith Hudson, Bath, England, <www.evolutionary-economics.org>
>
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