Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:09:01 -0800

Ed,
Crap is just "economie of scale".    Your complaint about survivor does not take into account the "news as entertainment" cable news channels that pay almost nothing for performers since life is the performer.   The perfect productivity.   Make all of the performers volunteers or payment a lottery.    That drives the serious programming onto the private for pay channels like showtime and HBO with a little in PBS.   (Not so great for upward mobility and designated marketing will make the gulf wider)   People can rob music on the internet but when the "dung hits the wind machine" everyone complains about the bad smell but denies culpability.     Productivity in labor creates a decline in quality in labor produced products.   Only in automated products does it not matter.    Quality and judgement are human traits not machines and that requires professionalism on the part of the producer and discrimination on the part of the consumer.  
 
Ed, you can't just crawl in a hole and retire.  You have to come up with a solution to the economic rules that have created this situation.   The theology of productivity and monetary value is the root and it is rotting the tree.   Harry can long for noble savages while demeaning networks and connectivity and others can complain about the education system as if their own views on culture and value had nothing to do with it.   But bemoaning your fate is beneath your considerable mind and experience.   I believe you see it correctly, now what are your solutions?
 
REH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Weick
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

I don't think we've solved the production problem.  One reason for our inequitable distribution of income is that we use our scarce resources to produce a lot of crap.  A lot of people make a lot of money producing crap.  Others keep them rich and themselves poor by buying it.
 
Ed
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 2:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

> Arthur,
>
> Wouldn't you know it?
>
> You almost repeated - word for word - what Henry George said in
> 1878.
>
> Great minds think alike!
>
> It's the reason why Classical Political Economy is described as
> "The Science that deals with the Nature, the Production, and the
> Distribution of Wealth.
>
> That "Distribution" bit is the essence of Political Economy.
> Would that modern economists would start thinking about why the
> distribution is so unfair, instead of devising ways to patch the
> system by taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
>
> Harry
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> -----Original Message-----
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> We have "solved" the production problem but can't seem to deal
> with the issue of distribution.
>
> Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:15 PM
> To: 'Brad McCormick, Ed.D.'; 'Ed Weick'
> Cc: 'futurework'
> Subject: RE: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/
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>
> Brad,
>
> We are discussing these problems in a society where the power to
> produce has reached unbelievable proportions (After many have
> been thrown out of work, the industries they left behind are
> actually producing more. Productivity hasn't fallen even though
> there are far fewer workers employed.)
>
> Why these "problems"?
>
> Harry
>
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