Most would say that the USSR was not Communist, aiming toward it perhaps but a brand of socialism.
 
arthur
 
My own take on it is that it was state capitalist.  The state owned all of the capital, made all of the important decisions etc.  It kept most people happy, up to a point, just like large corporations keep their employees happy.  I think it would have continued in that direction had it survived.
 
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I don't know how best to characterize it.  Russia was a basket case after the revolution (even before).  What it tried to do under Stalin and even subsequently was to industrialize very rapidly, which meant, via the state planning system, a very heavy emphasis on producers goods, especially those needed for heavy industry, and little emphasis on consumers goods.  Because of both paranoia and legitimate fears, there were huge expenditures on the military, meaning even less for the ordinary householder.  By about the 1980s, the system was simply not able to meet all of the demands it had placed on itself, and ordinary Russians had become tired of being asked to wait just a little longer for the workers' paradise to arrive.  It then began to collapse of its own weight.
 
Via the planning system, the state decided both production and distribution, and I find it very difficult to distinguish between the two in the case of the USSR.
 
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> Yes but wasn't it supposed to be distribution that did in the Communists?
> I'm just a poor artist but I do remember that discussion from you economists
> talking about our superior distribution.   I'm confused.   Educate me
> please.
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> REH
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> > Arthur,
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> > Wouldn't you know it?
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> > You almost repeated - word for word - what Henry George said in
> > 1878.
> >
> > Great minds think alike!
> >
> > It's the reason why Classical Political Economy is described as
> > "The Science that deals with the Nature, the Production, and the
> > Distribution of Wealth.
> >
> > That "Distribution" bit is the essence of Political Economy.
> > Would that modern economists would start thinking about why the
> > distribution is so unfair, instead of devising ways to patch the
> > system by taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
> >
> > Harry
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> > We have "solved" the production problem but can't seem to deal
> > with the issue of distribution.
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> > Arthur
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> > Brad,
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> > We are discussing these problems in a society where the power to
> > produce has reached unbelievable proportions (After many have
> > been thrown out of work, the industries they left behind are
> > actually producing more. Productivity hasn't fallen even though
> > there are far fewer workers employed.)
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> > Why these "problems"?
> >
> > Harry
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