I really do believe Dean is doing some of the things you speak of here, Ray.

Did you read the speech on race? There is an interview on foreign policy
that I didn't send to this list but he really does seem to have some of
these qualities. I hope it isn't just wishful thinking on my part.

Selma


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Fw: Democratic 'Shadow' Groups Face Scrutiny


> Its not unbelievable Selma, its just politics.   Liberal have to be
willing
> to be less lazy than before.   We've had it too easy.   The answer isn't
in
> money but in ideas.   We have to get out there, develop the ideas and most
> of all ask questions.   Claim the high road and on issues like abortion
NOT
> seem to be encouraging women to have them while supporting the right of a
> woman to direct her childbearing life.   Support freedom and then
encourage
> people to choose that which is best for both mother and child and if that
> fails and it becomes a competitive choice between the two then allow them
> the freedom to do so.   Liberals have lost the morality because they have
> been unable to focus on the underlying common sense issues that lie behind
> the conservative codes.   Don't hide in words like unbelievable or dirty.
> Instead use words like "morality" with impunity and be so.    If we are to
> win we must be better at what we do than they are and for me it is that
> simple.    The Left had become corrupt and stupid in the sixties.   I
would
> never have marched with any of those guys.   They were disgusting.   But
> they are all on the right now and I feel better.
>
> REH
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:21 PM
> Subject: [Futurework] Fw: Democratic 'Shadow' Groups Face Scrutiny
>
>
> > This feels like the first in a series of efforts that will attempt any
and
> > all strategies anyone can think of in this next battle for the American
> > presidency. I don't think there is any kind of strategy that won't be
> used,
> > no matter how dirty or unbelievable, and, unfortunately, many of them
will
> > work.
> >
> > Selma
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:30 PM
> > Subject: Democratic 'Shadow' Groups Face Scrutiny
> >
> >
> > > GOP, Watchdogs to Challenge Fundraising
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/z65d
> > >
> > > Washington Post
> > > Democratic 'Shadow' Groups Face Scrutiny
> > > By Thomas B. Edsall
> > > Washington Post Staff Writer
> > > Sunday, December 14, 2003; Page A05
> > >
> > > Leading campaign finance watchdog organizations as well as Republican
> > > activists intend to challenge the new "shadow" Democratic Party -- a
> > > network of independent groups gearing up to spend as much as $300
> million
> > > on voter mobilization and pro-Democratic TV ads.
> > >
> > > The organizations -- the Center for Responsive Politics, the Campaign
> > > Legal Center and Democracy 21 -- contend that the pro-Democratic
groups
> > > are violating prohibitions on the use of corporate and labor money for
> > > partisan voter registration and mobilization drives.
> > >
> > > Trevor Potter, chairman of the Campaign Legal Center, said the groups
> have
> > > become "the new soft money loophole. . . . This is the beginning of an
> > > important discussion about how these groups are going to operate."
> > >
> > > Judith L. Corley, who represents America Coming Together (ACT) and
other
> > > groups under fire, disputed Potter's contention. "The law has
permitted
> > > this type of activity all along," she said.
> > >
> > > Harold Ickes, who runs the pro-Democratic Media Fund, contended the
> > > Republican and watchdog critics are "one, trying to tie us up; two,
> divert
> > > our attention; three, force us to spend money on legal fees rather
than
> > > electoral activities; and four, to try to chill our contributors."
> > >
> > > Republican activists have created a group, Americans for a Better
> Country
> > > (ABC), in part for the purpose of getting the Federal Election
> Commission
> > > to rule on the legality of the objectives and practices of the
> > > pro-Democratic groups.
> > >
> > > "There is this gray area that right now liberal groups are operating
> in,"
> > > said Craig Shirley, one of the founders of ABC. "We'd like to operate
in
> > > that area if it is legal. . . . We are still at the starting gate, and
> > > they are four furlongs ahead of us."
> > >
> > > The 2002 McCain-Feingold law upheld by the Supreme Court last week
> banned
> > > parties from raising "soft money." Although supported by overwhelming
> > > Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, Democrats were far more
> > > dependent on those donations than the GOP, which has been more
> successful
> > > raising smaller, and still-legal, "hard money" contributions.
> > >
> > > New pro-Democratic organizations such as ACT, Voices for Working
> Families
> > > (VWF), America Votes and the Media Fund have stepped in this year to
> > > attempt to fill the vacuum created by the soft money ban. These groups
> are
> > > accepting large contributions from labor unions that the parties are
> > > prohibited from accepting. Most are explicitly opposed to President
> Bush.
> > >
> > > In the process, ACT, VWF, America Votes and the others are taking over
> > > many of the functions traditionally associated with the parties,
> including
> > > voter registration, canvassing, turnout. The Media Fund plans to run
> radio
> > > and television "issue" ads critical of Bush and supportive of
Democrats.
> > >
> > > Now the watchdog organizations contend that ACT and some of the other
> > > groups have become "pass-throughs" or "conduits" for labor unions
> seeking
> > > to use treasury money for partisan registration and turnout efforts.
The
> > > unions, they argue, are effectively violating federal law and FEC
> > > regulations prohibiting corporate or labor treasury money from being
> used
> > > for partisan purposes with the general public. They cite FEC
regulations
> > > that say:
> > >
> > > "The corporation or labor organization shall not make any
communication
> > > expressly advocating the election or defeat of any clearly identified
> > > candidate[s] or candidates of a clearly identified political party as
> part
> > > of the voter registration or get-out-the-vote drive. . . . The
> > > registration drive shall not be directed primarily to individuals
> > > previously registered with, or intending to register with, the
political
> > > party favored by the corporation or labor organization."
> > >
> > > Corley said the Campaign Legal Center and allied organizations are
> "trying
> > > to expand the soft money ban to all activities, but they are doing it
> > > increment by increment by increment."
> > >
> > > "What we are trying to do is get the FEC to enforce the law as
> intended,"
> > > said Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive
> > > Politics. "All we are saying is: Enforce this law as intended, and
don't
> > > repeat the mistakes of the past."
> > >
> >
> >
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