On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:19:34AM +0200, Olivier Chapuis wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 04:03:59PM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 07:58:05AM -0600, S. Anderson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 10:43:28AM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:34:53PM -0600, S. Anderson wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 08:12:16PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
> > > > > > Steve Talley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > > > I didn't get any response to this on the FVWM user's list, so I
> > > > > > > thought I'd try the devel list.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hmm, looks like this slipped thru the cracks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Steve
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Steve Talley wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've been using shaped desktop icons which look very spiffy but
> > > > > > > > present a frequent problem.  When I go to click on an icon, 
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > half the time (depending on the icon) I end up clicking on a
> > > > > > > > transparent part of the icon, which gets passed through to the
> > > > > > > > desktop.  The result is that the root menu pops up instead of 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > intended deiconification.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just thought I would mention, if you use png images for your Icons,
> > > > > clicking on the transparent part will do what you want.
> > > > 
> > > > Um, really?  But we haven't implemented anything like this in
> > > > fvwm.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > hmm, mabey the transparent part of my icon isn't completely transparent
> > > then. It is here if you want to look at it.
> > > http://www.xmission.com/~sa/terminal.png
> > 
> > Teehee, funny!  PNGs work with the ParentRelative attribute to
> > implement transparency.  Have you tried to drag a PNG icon across
> > a window?
> > 
> > Olivier, is that a feature of the PNG lib or did you write this?
> > 
> 
> No, I have implemented this. Of course the solution is not perfect.  I
> was award of the problem you point out: icon with alpha over a window
> (there are also small pbs with background change if you do not use an
> Esetroot or fvwm-root compatible programs).
> 

Or maybe we should use the icon title bg color as bg for alpha blend
rendering. But, using ParentalRelativity seems to me more consistent
with the rendering of an icon with a mask and no alpha. In both case
an icon with some alpha over a window will look strange.

> The only other solution I see is to implement two new style
> IconBackgroundColorset and HilightIconBackgroundColorset, plus a style
> to control the size of the background and the relief. It is on my todo
> list, but if one want to do it there is no problems :o)
> 

Olivier
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