On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 11:10:00PM +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > Ethan Blanton a écrit : > >Olivier Chapuis spake unto us the following wisdom: > > > >>Now a note on _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP (and _NET_DESKTOP_VIEW PORT), the > >>EWMH spec says that this property (as a client msg) is for a pager. Thus > >>if gtk_window_present() uses this property (and one may understand that > >>it uses it in the *view of the doc*), you may understand that you go > >>beyond what an application is espected to do at startup: is gaim a > >>Pager? > > > > > >After some discussion with the Gaim folk who grok Gtk+, we have some > >questions ... are you actually _seeing_ _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP or > >_NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT? > > I do not know I do not use gaim (I use psi). But I read the > discussion on the forum and Dominik conclude that such msg was send by > gaim. Moreover, my gtk_window_present() doc says: > > "Presents a window to the user. This may mean raising the window in the > stacking order, deiconifying it, moving it to the current desktop, > and/or giving it the keyboard focus, possibly dependent on the user's > platform, window manager, and preferences." > > So the doc says that gtk_window_present() may send a > _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP client msg. Maybe this depends on the version of > gtk ... > > > >As best we can tell, gtk_window_present() > >calls gtk_window_show() when the window is not visible, and > >gtk_window_focus() when it is. We suspect that the gtk_window_focus > >is the problem, as it raises _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW. Is it possible that > >fvwm is actually seeing _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, this causes it to switch > >desktops/pages? If so, is this an inappropriate client message (I > >don't believe it is.) It is clearly causing a behavior that at least > >some users are not pleased with. > > I think that Dominik ask the user with the gaim problem to disable > _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW msg for fvwm and the switching was still there. Dominik?
I'm not entirely sure which message is sent. I suspected _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT, but on the forum I was told that it was probably _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW or NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP. I think we can rule out the second one because it does not match the behaviour the user saw. > I do not think that _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW is an inappropriate msg if the > source indication is set to 2 (indicating a normal application msg). gtk > does that with gtk_window_show() I think. I will add: a normal > application can set the source indication to 1 (taskbar/pager) or send a > _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP msg if and only if this depends on a direct user > action or if this is a (non default) option of the app (e.g., maybe some > user like to have focus problems and want that an IM msg force the focus > to the discussion window :o). Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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