On 20 June 2010 11:00, Jake Moe <jakesaddr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20/06/10 15:06, Jaimos Skriletz wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 08:43:18PM +0100, Rui Silva wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I've installed FVWM and FVWM-themes on my Ubuntu 10.04 but I'm
>>> experiencing some difficulties:
>>>
>>> 1. How can I activate FVWM as my default WM?
>>>
>>> 2. How can I use the "cde" as the default theme?
>>>
>>> 3. How can I deactivate GNOME desktop manager and replace by the cde
>>> look and feel?
>>>
>>>
>> The answer to these three questions are all related and depending on how you 
>> want thigns set up you have one of two basic models you can follow. Of the 
>> two I will briefly describe, the first is probabaly the one you don't want 
>> I'm just mentioning it incase you do and so you can see the difference in 
>> the philosphy of what is going on.
>>
>> The First Method: you will run fvwm/fvwm-themes as a window manager within 
>> gnome as your desktop. In this situation you replace just the window manager 
>> but the rest of the gnome destkop will still be running. To do this you will 
>> have to configure gnome (I haven't used this in a long time so I cannot 
>> answer on the paticulars here) to use fvwm/fvwm-themes as your window 
>> manager.
>>
>> In the first method your logon and everything will be the same, you will 
>> still have the gnome pannels, menus and configuring options, you will then 
>> just have fvwm/fvwm-themes to configure on top of it.
>>
>> The Second Method: you will run fvwm/fvwm-themes as your sole desktop window 
>> manager and not run it though gnome (i.e. you can scrape gnome completely). 
>> To do this you need the details of how you log into X. Most Ubuntu defaults 
>> will put you into gdm (gnome display manager) which will launch X and either 
>> give you a graphical logon or automatically log onto an account and into X.
>>
>> It is the job of gdm to know what desktop to run when you log into X, by 
>> default this will be gnome, but it is possible to configure gdm to run any 
>> other wm/desktop. So what you will want to do is configure gdm to launch 
>> fvwm-themes instead of gnome when you log on. Once you do that you will log 
>> into fvwm-themes.
>>
>> Once you have it setup how you want to use fvwm-themes (as a wm within gnome 
>> or as a stand along wm) you will then configure it via its graphical menus. 
>> For the most part I belive if you just select the 'cde' theme once it will 
>> set it up as the default and load that theam each time you log into 
>> fvwm-themes from that point on.
>>
>> Last if you don't like to use gdm as the display manager, xdm and wdm are 
>> two alternatives.
>>
>>
>>> 4. How can I import the GNOME menus to my FVWM menu?
>>>
>>>
>> I know of no direct way to just import the menus, but you can get the 
>> program menu to work in fvwm. Ubuntu (i.e. Debian) has a package called 
>> 'menu' which is a script that creates a program menus for all the software 
>> you have installed on your Ubuntu machine. You should have by default if you 
>> are using the Debian fvwm package, you should have this menu and all you 
>> have to do is call it. The menus name is just "/Debian", so if you call 
>> Popup "/Debian" you should just get the debain menu that will have all the 
>> programs.
>>
>> You will not of course have all the system menus and gdm menus integrated 
>> since you won't be running gnome, but the software menu you can get just 
>> fine.
>>
>> If Popup "/Debian" doesn't give you a menu, then you may not have a default 
>> debian fvwm package and you may have to track down the script to generate 
>> the debian menu in fvwm.
>>
>> Hope this is of some help,
>>
>> jaimos
>>
>>
> If you use FVWM as your sole window manager (i.e., not through Gnome), a
> way that worked for me is to use xdg_menu from ArchLinux to generate a
> KDE (and Gnome, and LXDE, and XFCE) menu that I can put into my FVWM
> menu, like so:
>
> PipeRead "/usr/local/bin/xdg_menu --format fvwm2 --root-menu
> /etc/xdg/menus/gnome-applications.menu | sed -e 's/xdg_menu/gnome_menu/'
> 2>/dev/null"

i tried this out - very useful.

will this get included in fvwm?

i would like it if it did. :)

M. Treibton

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