On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:16:56PM +0200, stu wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:59:11 +0000
> Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > or ask konsole developers to add XSMP support that konsole
> > seems to lack (otherwise there would be the unique id for each konsole
> > window and no heuristical guess-by-name is needed).
> 
> xwininfo returns the following id's for my konsole windows :
> 
> xwininfo: Window id: 0x2400005 "Shell No. 2 - Konsole"
> xwininfo: Window id: 0x1200005 "Shell No. 3 - Konsole"
> xwininfo: Window id: 0x1400005 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stu/meerrs - Shell No.
> 6 - Konsole" 
> 
> AFAICS they all have unique window id's (or am I looking in the wrong
> place maybe?)

Of course all windows have a unique window id, but these are given
by the X server and can be used by a different application if the
window dies in the mean time.  Therefore, they need a special SM
id too.

> > It is also possible that something just does not work well together
> > (fvwm, ksmserver, konsole etc).
> 
> Possibly. As I stated above, I don't use any kind of session manager
> with fvwm, but loading konsole causes the following kde related
> processes to run (output from 'ps afx'):
> 
> 19720 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: Running...
> 19723 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid --suicide
> 19726 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
>  9572 ?        S      0:01 kdeinit: knotify
> 
> Could any one of these be causing this problem?

I'm really just guessing, but klauncher sounds as if it might do
session management.

> > In this case you may debug the problem if possible and report your
> > results.
> 
> As a beginning I started up window-maker, started 3 konsole sessions on
> 3 different desktops, numbered each one and restarted window-maker a few
> times. Each session was on the correct desktop after the restarts.
> 
> I will try closing down all apps except konsole (when work is over) and
> then checking if the problem persists. Do you have any advice as to how
> I may further debug this problem, if this route is required?

To verify whether it's a SM problem or not, ./configure fvwm with
the --disable-sm option.  If the problem goes away, it has
something to do with session menagement.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^
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