On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:41:53 +0100
Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Of course all windows have a unique window id, but these are given
> by the X server and can be used by a different application if the
> window dies in the mean time.  Therefore, they need a special SM
> id too.

How would one get the SM id for a window, or determine whether or not
one exists? 

> > > It is also possible that something just does not work well
> > > together(fvwm, ksmserver, konsole etc).
> > 
> > loading konsole causes the following kde related
> > processes to run (output from 'ps afx'):
> > 
> > 19720 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: Running...
> > 19723 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid --suicide
> > 19726 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
> >  9572 ?        S      0:01 kdeinit: knotify
> > 
> > Could any one of these be causing this problem?
> 
> I'm really just guessing, but klauncher sounds as if it might do
> session management.

No, klauncher works with dcop for KDE's inter-process communication.

> To verify whether it's a SM problem or not, ./configure fvwm with
> the --disable-sm option.  If the problem goes away, it has
> something to do with session menagement.

Although I don't have any kind of session-manager running, I will
give this a try.
 
> Ciao
> 
> Dominik ^_^  ^_^

Thanks
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