The fans in the 360's are software controlled via HP monitoring
software (pardon my blunt description).  If the server doesn't have the HP
drivers / control software installed the fans automatically go to "full
speed" mode -- and it's noisy!  You'll generally see this on a DL360 when it
boots -- the fans come on full speed for a minute until the software takes a
thermal reading and quiets them down.  Usually a custom kernal / stripped OS
doesn't have the software installed, resulting in the fans running full
bore.  If you were to install W2K on the same box for a different function
it would likely be much quieter.

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        Wade Kierstead, Systems Architect
        City of Fredericton Information & Communication Technology
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Dorsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] Platform Recommendation?


Kinda an aside, are your 360s really loud?  People in
my group call them "the howlers".  They make more noise
than much larger boxes.  I put in two (not for firewalls),
and they both sound exactly the same so I am sure it's
not a bad fan.  I was considering them for platforms
for my next FW upgrade, but I am not sure I want that
much more noise in my server room.

just wondering.

Hal


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Choyna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] Platform Recommendation?
>
>
> The HP DL360 & DL380 are the hardware recommendations l was
> making to you.
>
> You would install Secure Platform on them (20 minutes max, it's that
> simple) and then go from there.
>
> Depending on what Checkpoint version you're currently running
> will determine how easy it would be to migrate to SPLAT
> (Secure PLATform) R56 (or whichever version you wish to run).
>
> We are running ours with cluster XL and VPN.
>
> These servers are hardware overkill for what you'll be using
> them for, so you'll have plenty of growth built in.
>
> Make sure you buy the G3 versions of the servers, and not the
> more recent G4. The reason is that the 5i raid card on the
> G3's is supported by SPLAT, while the G4's 6i raid card is
> not yet supported to my knowledge (unless they have rectified
> that very recently).
>
> We have each of our DL380's configured with 2 disks mirrored
> (RAID 1), twin 3.06 Ghz Xeon CPU's (one will do fine, we just
> wanted max double redundancy), and redundant power supplies.
>
> l'm currently building our DL360's for our office location
> after seeing how well the DL380's & SPLAT perform at the co-lo.
>
> Al
>
>
> At 10:42 PM 2/9/2005, Shane Presley wrote:
> >Sounds like a DL380 would do it.  So that is different than
> >SecurePlatform?  What OS does it run under the hood?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Shane
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:48:31 -0600, Alan Choyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> > > We use DL380's, as you have room for two 4 port cards
> > >
> >
> (http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/pro1000mt_quad_ser
> > ver_adapter.htm)
> > > as well as the 2 gigabit ports that come with the server,
> as well as
> > > having redundant power supplies.
> > >
> > > We use DL360's for our other location, with one four port card.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > At 08:06 PM 2/9/2005, Shane Presley wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >We run CheckPoint FW-1 on Solaris with ClusterXL for our primary
> > > >firewalls.  That handles all our production traffic.
> > > >
> > > >Currently our backup network is 100MB to the backup clients, and
> > > >1000MB to the backup server.   That backup network is
> not firewalled
> > > >(there are multiple segments).  It just just a router
> with ACLs.
> > > >But we would like to switch and use CheckPoint.  Our Solaris
> > > >firewalls do not have the capacity to handle that additional
> > > >traffic. So we are considering adding a new firewall (or
> pair) just
> > > >for the backup segments.
> > > >
> > > >Any recommendations?  No VPN, very simple traffic.
> Probably need
> > > >4-6 100MB interfaces and one or two 1000MB interfaces.
> Throughput
> > > >would have to be 1GB.
> > > >
> > > >So it looks like SPLAT might do it.  But I've never used SPLAT.
> > > >What hardware would I run it on?  Or is that bundled
> with hardware?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Shane
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