It depends on your use.  We're using both, and for low bandwidth
requirements (say under 500 Mb/s total throughput), I really like the
Nokia IP-380's.  They're easy to manage, they have reasonable VPN
acceleration on the motherboard, and are cost competitive with a 1U Dell
server for the same use.  If you need to do active-active instead of HA,
factor in the cost increase of having to buy Cluster-XL from Checkpoint
instead of doing it in the Nokia OS.  There's also some features in IPSO
like routing protocols, broadcast helpers, the ability to be an NTP
source for DMZ subnets, etc, that you might have to add on to SPLAT, but
aside from NTP, I have only rarely needed to use a lot of those
features.

If you go higher in bandwidth there's no cost comparison.  The  Intel
boxes with SPLAT go up slightly in price to handle multi-GB throughput,
whereas the Nokia line gets ridiculous in the same bandwidth for IP-7xx
and 12xx boxes and higher that can be 10X the cost of SPLAT per Mb/s.
Nokia does offer a fully solid state option in the high end, (for $$$),
as well.

What you train on makes a lot of difference, as there are non-intuitive
parts to both platforms (I originally moved to them from running
Checkpoint on Sun Solaris, so both were confusing in some areas for a
while).  There are minor annoyances to either one, like the GUI for
SPLAT not sorting addresses displayed in the routing table (a mess to
search through).  The Nokia's use GUI for some things that work easier
by command line, and using command line on the SPLAT boxes for stuff
like adding vlan tags to interfaces is a pain.  Both have their points,
and both are usable to configure.  

You can backup & restore a Nokia box config (interfaces, vlans, VRRP
addresses, and so on) just as quick as a splat box, if you actually do
backups.  If you deploy enough of them, you can script the Nokia configs
and run them with your new IP's / vlans to get them running really
quickly, but for a single pair you'll probably run through the web GUI
and spend a half hour setting them up unless you have a really
complicated network or a lot of vlan trunks for some reason.

If you need to keep spare h/w on site, like I said, for smaller stuff
like an IP-380, it's not far off in cost from an Intel server, but
larger boxes would be more.  If you're running H/A, and have support,
you don't really have to have spare h/w on site for either platform.  If
you already have enough Intel servers to keep spares on site for other
platforms in your company, then your decision might skew in favor of
Intel again for that reason.

I've not personally had problems upgrading Nokia IPSO, or installing
Checkpoint on them, for the last couple of years worth of revisions.
Nokia support has been pretty good, and even helped solve some problems
faster than the Checkpoint support people figured it out, so I'd rate
their support pretty well for my usage as well.  Likewise, reliability
has been pretty good.  We've got about 30 Nokia boxes ranging from the
old IP-330's up to the IP-740's on site, and I can think of 1 hard drive
failure in the last 3 years.  We've only got less than a dozen SPLAT
boxes on site at the moment, and they're not that old, but it's all
dependant upon the h/w vendor you choose, and you can usually get an
idea on h/w reliability from another server team on site to pick what
h/w you'll choose anyway.

One thing is I think I'd recommend Nokia to a site that had part time FW
admins, or didn't do much firewall work, and wanted something easier to
work with. I do think it's a bit easier if someone's coming back to do
firewall changes only once in a while, but that's personal decision on
how the interfaces seem to be built.  If you do enough work on either
one you'll have it memorized regardless.

Just a few ideas from what we're doing here, I'm sure there are other
decision points to consider as well.

Bruce
 

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From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emily
Conrad
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 15:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FW-1] Intel vs. special purpose FW-1 servers

Hello,

We are working on a project to upgrade our firewall infrastructure.

One of the questions is whether to use FW-1 on a standard Intel server
or to use a special-purpose optimized version of FW-1 on a dedicated
hardware platform such as Nokia firewall appliance or Crossbeam systems
C30/X40.

Does anyone have any advice on what factors are important when making
such a decision?


Thanks,

Emily

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