Hi,

< We noted that NAT rules were never matched. Then we found that groups
< and ranges get expanded for NAT rules.

I don't want to use these ip range objects in our NAT rules. We just need 
them in our security rulebase. So, would there any problems using them in 
the security rulebase? Otherwise we have to create more than 6000 node 
objects...

Mit freundlichen Gruessen - Best regards

Thorsten Mandau




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bazauas bazueta wrote:
> Hugo,
> 
> You said that CP rules are written for the individual addresses and that 
the CPU/fw resources suffers by the use of address ranges and/or network 
objects.
> That's true only for SmartCenter Server resources or it is also true for 
fw nodes?

I have investigated the issue in lenght in the 4.1 days. But I guess
this has remained pretty much the same in this regard.

We noted that NAT rules were never matched. Then we found that groups
and ranges get expanded for NAT rules.

So a group of 8 networks against a group of 8 networks in a NAT rule
becomes 64 NAT rules efectively. So guess what happens if you do this
with 2 groups of 150 networks? ......

It takes ages to compile 22500 NAT rules.

You also run out of NAT rules and some NAT rules in effect never existed.

With NGX the tables sizes are more dynamic. But they can still grow too
large to be practical.

So be carefull if you use a ALL_LOCAL_NETWORKS group object in your NAT
rules. We use(d) to use a manual NAT rule to specify this group as
source and destination to prevent NAT on local traffic.

These days we prefer to use explicit groups just for this purpose and
supernet as much as possible. So we use 10.0.0.0/8 instead of a bunch of
10.X.Y.Z/24 networks.

> Does SmartCenter Server "breaks" network objects into host objects 
during compilation (like a /24 network object into 256 hosts objects)? 
> 
> Do you have access to data that correlates the use of this type of 
objects with fw performance?

Not for a while. I will only return to the office next week. And doing
research just for kicks is not likely to happen soon with a backlog of 3
weeks waiting on monday.

Hugo.

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