Hi Stephen,
Your thoughts sir on my last two email. Thanks again for all the help

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:25 BST Stephen JT Bourike wrote:

>Peter,
>
>If the NAT is occurring naturally (ie on a non-Check Point device en-route) 
>then no - but you DO need to make sure that you are NOT accidentally applying 
>NAT rules on that gateway that could affect things.
>
>More likely is probably the anti-spoofing applied to the interface that the 
>management connection is arriving on - zdebug will probably help you determine 
>that. 
>
>Is your source address (ie the management server) getting NAT'd ?  If it is, 
>then this is going to get messy, especially if that SmartCenter manages more 
>than this one gateway pair.    The firewall will assume that it's management 
>server is on the IP address that is shown in the General IP address on the 
>SmartCenter object.  Until you install policy, the firewalls will accept 
>control from ANY  management server with a valid SIC, but once you push the 
>policy down, part of the information handed to the firewalls is the specific 
>IP addresses of the management and log servers.
>
>What this would mean  is that if your management server is on 10.10.10.10 
>physically, but the en-route NAT changes this to 20.20.20.20, the GENERAL IP 
>address of the management server will need to be configured as 20.20.20.20 in 
>order for it to work properly.  If, however, you have a second pair of 
>firewalls that see the management server properly as it's un-NAT'd address 
>(10.10.10.10) then you will have issues if you start changing the General IP 
>address.
>
>If you are using SmartCenter, you should be able to open the topology tab of 
>the management server object and create one entry for the real IP address 
>(eth0 - 10.10.10.10) and then a second entry (eth1 - 20.20.20.20).  Depending 
>on the version (and this really does behave differently in different 
>releases), you should then be able to push policy and the gateway will accept 
>connections from either IP address. If this is the only gateway you are 
>managing, you can then set the General IP address to the 20.20.20.20 NAT 
>address and job done.  If you have other gateways too then you probably cannot 
>change the general address, so you may continue to see logging issues because 
>the firewall will continue to try to log to the address in the General tab.  
>You may be able to overcome this using something as simple as a forced static 
>host route for the general IP address via the NATting router, or you may need 
>to create a separate "dummy" log server object and use
 that instead of the Sma!
> rtCenter in the logs and masters section as the log server of choice.
>
>Or you can work out a way to eliminate the need for NAT in the first place 
>(like moving the Smart Centre to another place in the network) :)
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>Steve
>Security is a process, not a product.
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: Re: [FW-1] Please help!!! " Reason: Smart Center Server aborted 
>connection with peer, due to timeout = 300000( mili-sec )( port = 18191 )
>
>Thanks, appreciate the detailed reply.
>The firewalls are currently managed by a P-1 but will be managed from a smart 
>center, if the nat occurs naturally and back then do we still need to have nat 
>rules applied, any idea how the nat rules will read?
>
>
>
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