Hi Ivan
I have no idea - wish I did. From my point of view the whole process sucks
- I don't care so much about exam now - I just want to have best possible
preparation to install/configure/maintain FW-1. Looks as though I will need
to fork out for some books on FW-1 but you would have thought that spending
some serious money on CP courses would do the job !
Too many courses these days seem concentrated on getting exam results
rather than real useful practical knowledge.
My recommendation from my experience would be to forget official CP
training - get an independent FW-1 consultant (not ATC Checkpoint approved
- because they won't let their people customise courses) to do a course for
you, get several months real experience and then take exam if you really
want to (I guess it looks good on CVs). Personally I think the CCSE
certificate's value is somewhat akin to the Euro - it's value may go up or
down - probably down though ;-)
Tim Higgins
"Ivan Fox"
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25/05/00 Subject: Re: [FW1] RE: Checkpoint
Training, poor quality, lack of
12:06 slides etc....
Mr Higgins;
For CCSAs/CCSEs certified in 4.0, do they need to write the 4.1 or
Checkpoint 2000 exams to re-certify?
Thanks,
Ivan
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>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for the info - very useful, but:-
>
> 1. I thought I had already taken all necessary training for CCSE exam and
I
> am supposed to be kicking off a fairly large implementation of
SecurRemote
> NOW (in fact several weeks ago but....!)
> 2. Can I take this new 'last day' on it's own to supplement my 4.0
training
> ?
> 3. One or two mistakes in course materials is pretty much par for the
> course but in the Checkpoint CCSE there were MANY
> 4. Does anyone know why Checkpoint refuse trainers to give out these
slides
> ?
> 5. Note for Checkpoint - kwolitie kountrul is impartint
>
> Tim Higgins
>
>
> "Unfortunately Tim, you will find this problem at many training centers
> and not by fault of the training center itself. We are bound by our ATC
> contract with Check Point and not allowed to give out copies of the
> slides on paper or in a file format. I'm assuming from the rest of your
> comments that you took the 4.0 course. Some of the issues you mentioned
> have been addressed in the CP2000 (a.k.a. 4.1 SP1) courseware. The lab
> review answers are now included in the course material. SecuRemote is
> covered more in the fifth day of class. The recommended courses to get
> your CCSA and CCSE certification is to take the CCSA, CCSE and VPN for
> the Security Professional (the fifth day of class). 30-40% of the CCSE
> test now comes from the VPN for Security Professional course which
> covers SecuRemote, SecurClient, SecurServer, MEP and SEP configurations
> and a little on the VPN-1 appliance and accelerator card. As for
> mistakes in the courseware, I'm afraid that if history is any indicator,
> you will continue to see mistakes in the courseware...."
>
>
>
>
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