this whole thread sounds like a taste of dealing with checkpoint as a whole.
you'd think for as much as the product costs and as snotty as the people
from their largest resellers are (i.e. ISS), they would actually have some
good solutions.
try to download and install an eval on a weekend, can't get the cert key...
try to get a support contract... they are ALL vague and nonsensical...
try to get descent CCSE books...
try to make some logic of why 'some folks can and some folks can't' with
regards to PPTP, etc...
it's ridiculous but it seems the way of the 'canned app'. buy an oracle
database with a canned package and the vendor charges you 100k for the
privilege of using their buggy software and then charges you to be a lab rat
for their patches. a hole is found in a microsoft app and it's renamed from
'bug' to 'feature', until the next SP comes out when the 'feature' magically
vanishes.
what can you do though?
as far as checkpoint CCSA/CCSE training goes (to add another certification,
I guess), I thought about it but found the ISC2 (www.isc2.org) organization
to much more compelling as it covers a 'common body of knowledge' that can
be applied anywhere vs. what checkpoint wants you to know about their
products...
sorry to vent/bash. been a long week....
Brendan McCauley MCSE/ASE/GM
(GM=general misfit/miscreant)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: payal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [FW1] Training
>
>
>
> hi
>
> I know of fellow who attended a ISS course in Dallas; without
> having sat for Certification exams - got his certicates with
> his PALM pilot - way to go ISS!
>
> i think these courses are what you can get out of them. and
> depend on the instructor. I think this list should keep track
> of good Instructors to circumvent the porblem. I am planning to
> take mandatory checkpoint 2000 ad. course / vpn; and good
> recomendations
> on instructors will be appreciated.
>
> cheers
>
>
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:49:05 +0000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [FW1] Training
>
> My intention is to:-
>
> 1. Complain to VAR who sold course
> 2. Complain to Checkpoint as at least part of the problem
> appears to be
> their policy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 3. See if I can repeat course with another training company who may be
> better able to circumvent Checkpoint's failings in this area
>
> (am I being unfair to Checkpoint here ? - I think from
> Julia's response
> that I am not - anybody else out there with an opinion on this ?)
>
>
> Tim Higgins
>
>
>
>
>
> Julia Kriner
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc:
>
> Subject: RE:
> [FW1] Training
>
> 24/05/00
>
> 17:05
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes,
> I can totally relate. I attended the same course (offered by
> VeriSign), and
> had absolutely the same issues.
> Do you think we could file a formal complaint and ask to
> repeat the course?
>
> Julia Kriner
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 1:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [FW1] Training
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I attended a CCSA/CCSE combined course in Cambridge and had
> the following
> > issues:-
> >
> > 1. The course notes didn't match the slides several times.
> When I asked
> > trainer for copies of slides I was refused "Checkpoint policy".
> > 2. The course materials had many mistakes also
> > 3. The lab reviews were not completed because "Checkpoint
> have not issued
> > the answers"
> > 4. Some topics were only glossed over - such as SecurRemote - and
> > certainly
> > issues relating to NT domain login were not covered
>
>
>
>
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