In my experience, this forum has been extremely good about handling differences of opinion in the past, and I don't see why this thread should be any exception.
Greg, I don't see anything inappropriate about your comments or any reason why we shouldn't be able to address them. You're obviously an opinionated developer with a lot of experience using other frameworks that rounds out your perspective. ZF isn't perfect by a long shot (I could say this about every framework- or piece of code, for that matter- that I've ever spent any time working with), and it certainly does some things differently from other frameworks. I don't have enough personal experience to address your questions about Zend_Uri myself. In fact, I was looking forward to finding out what alternative methods there are and what people feel Zend_Uri brings to the table in follow ups to your email. But please keep in mind that this list has been infiltrated by a bunch of passionate ZF'ers when you express your opinions here. ;) Everyone else, if you don't know Greg personally or have had significant interactions with him on this topic outside of this thread, I'd say you're going out on a limb with some of these characterizations. The funny thing to me is that I see a lot of value in the opinions and insight expressed in this thread so far, but they've now become largely buried under much more sensational opinions about Greg himself. How bout we focus on the content of the questions and not the style with which they are asked? J Thanks everyone for making this list so valuable to so many ZF users. ,Wil From: EagleEye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Uri I find it incredibly sad that someone who claims to have 9 years of experience in PHP and various other technologies is here whining like a kid about something trivial like these components. I don't like Zend_Db, but I'm not flaming about it. I just don't use it. The beauty of Zend Framework. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Mathew Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thought I'd forward this on since it was sent directly to me ;) Begin forwarded message: From: "Greg Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: April 25, 2008 9:55:37 AM GMT+10:00 To: "Mathew Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Uri On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Mathew Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Judging from all your other posts here I'd say maybe ZF isn't for you. Clearly it's not for "Web 2.0" development either. Where's the Javascript integration? Where's any integration at all? You should probably go back to writing good old fashioned flat PHP scripts, might save you from getting so worked up ;) Pffft.. I'm not worked up. This certainly isn't the first brain-damaged PHP code I've laid eyes on. It'll fail all on it's own, with or without my opinions. Sadly I'm tasked with using it on a project, so it's not really a matter of choice for me. I'd have dropped it days ago otherwise. Framework.. hilarious. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/
