> Yeah, well I guess I'm trying to break away from procedural while not foraying 100% into MVC. In my opinion you are making this much harder on yourself than you need to. Full Stack MVC is going to be easier with a framework, as the components are designed to work together. Breaking parts of it out on its own almost requires you to be MORE familiar with the MVC pattern than if you were just go with the flow and figure out how it all works together. Also you may find it easier to make the jump from procedural to just organizing your code in classes. Once you get the power of an Object Oriented approach, then you can research design patterns and how to better organizing your classes. YMMV, -- Eric Marden
