-- Cristian Bichis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Saturday, 05 July 2008, 12:43 AM +0300):
> There is a ZF channel by one year for now i think, try #zftalk on freenode...
> Or www.zftalk.com
> 
> Many interesting people online on the channel (even guys from zf dev team)...
> Many problems solved, many ideas discussed, aso...

The suggestion is to have a separate developer/contributor channel in
addition to #zftalk in order to separate user/support talk from
component development talk.

I'm of mixed minds on this. I typically find myself turning off IRC or
only logging into channels with very low activity when I'm heads-down in
development or planning -- which is a good 50-75% of my time. Mailing
lists make it easier to read through and respond to conversations while
retaining context. However, at the same time, synchronous communication
such as IRC can be invaluable for working through design issues during
development.

>     IRC is great for support, brainstorming and refining ideas with people
>     currently online. If you are offline - tough luck. It can be logged,
>     sure, but if you want to pick up a topic later there is no easy way to
>     provide context for your questions. A mailing list is much better for
>     that as it allows people in different timezones and with different work
>     habits to participate effectively.
> 
>     #zfdev will be a great start, but I think a dev mailing list is
>     important in the short run as well.
> 
>     Christoph
> 
> 
> 
>     Wil Sinclair wrote:
> 
> 
>         I think it would be up to the users to make sure nothing important is 
> said on the IRC channel alone- especially if it's significant to the wider 
> community.
> 
>         ,Wil
> 
> 
> 
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: till [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:34 PM
>             To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             Cc: Wil Sinclair; Laurent Melmoux; Pádraic Brady; Zend Framework
>             General
>             Subject: Re: [fw-general] Why haven't you reviewed the Zend_Tool
>             proposals?
> 
>             On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Christoph Dorn
>             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>                 I am all for an IRC channel although I am not always online 
> which may
>                 make it less beneficial than a "dev" mailing list for me.
> 
> 
> 
>             There are a couple services that log irc channels and provide a
>             searchable frontend. I don't remember the names as of now, but 
> there
>             are some. IMHO, that would provide extra value.
> 
>             I don't really care IRC vs. mailinglist. Email is just easier 
> since I
>             use it anyway on a day to day basis, IRC is more a thing, I have 
> to
>             log myself in and read backlog/current discussions to follow.
> 
>             Till
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Matthew Weier O'Phinney
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Zend Framework           | http://framework.zend.com/

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