Wow, you are way too upset about things, seriously, I get pissed when things don't work, but I am always confused, if you feel Apple is to blame then why buy Apple stuff?
I am not saying put up or shut up, I am just confused, some people seem to say they feel towards Apple the way I do towards MS, and yet, because of how I feel I don't use MS products, yet many use Apple products and claim to feel constantly slighted, noting a timeline of abuse they feel they have suffered through. To me things like Firmware updates make a lot of sense, I understand their purpose and it justifies their use. Blaming 3rd party RAM for not meeting specs ... well, that made sense to me as I believe that if hardware does not meet certain specs then how can anyone know how to support it? Roxio complained that it was all Apple's fault that their Toast product did not work with Mac OS X for about 6-8 months. And yet, they released updates for Windows XP, when it is a documented fact that MS does not provide adequate documentation of their system underpinnings for 3rd party developers. I am not saying that Roxio was lying, I am not saying Apple did not have their act together, I am saying that developers enjoy the luxury of blaming Apple every time the *3rd partys'* product does not work. No one does that with MS, I don't think that its because its a true reason so much as a good excuse that they can get away with. On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 12:55 PM, Eric D. wrote: > OS X 10.2 killed support for my drive (& I have had that verified from > another owner of the same drive): Sony 24/10/40 internal. Question: Whose responsibility is it to support 3rd party hardware? Is it entirely Apple's or should the 3rd party be providing an update if there is an actual conflict between new system software and their hardware? I realize that Apple states what drives *Apple* supports, but Apple does it in conjunction with the 3rd party developers. Why are you aiming *all* the blame at Apple? Sony should be supporting their burner - if it doesn't work, then both companies are to blame. > I also lost > support for my USB burner along the way (don't remember which version > of OS > X 10.x.x killed that! Fortunately I never used the internal burning > software > except to gauge OS X's support for third party burners :) So you update to the new version, and then use Apple's software in order to be able to complain at how poorly it does? And if the only thing you care about is support by Roxio via Toast then what do you care if Apple disables your burner or not, you just said you don't use their software anyways. Put these two together for me. > Since it doesn't > do multi-session back-ups or gives you any control over the CDs you > create > it was next to useless for real back-up (other than if you wanted to > dump a > whole lot of stuff to disk at once and that was pretty rare). Actually Mac OS X v.10.2.x does do multi-session discs, there is an AppleCare doc on it. If you are referring to the OS, if you are referring to a specific utility such as Backup then the answer may be different. > Of course... this is also the company that used AFTER-SALE FirmWare > updates > to maliciously disable G4 updates in B&Ws, merely to prevent the B&W > from > competing with the first generation G4 (which didn't add anything > substantial to the design of the computer). Not accurate. The first generation G4 came in two varieties, both were available at the same time, and the primary one did in fact offer many benefits over the Blue and White G3. The Sawtooth based G4 allowed for booting from FireWire devices, 2x AGP graphics, higher memory and PCI throughput, Ultra ATA/66, AirPort, and internal FireWire. None of those were available on Blue and White G3s. Yikes! based G4s constituted the low-end of the Power Mac product line and were based on modified Yosemite [Blue and White] motherboards, they did not add anything substantial to the design of the computer, as you say. But, seriously, ask yourself how many people you know go shopping for a Yikes! G4? Even at the time of release the majority of interest and sales were targeted at the higher-end models *because* they introduced new technology not available on the Blue and White G3. Blue and Whites had their 3rd party upgrade path disabled until the 3rd parties changed that, I am not arguing with that. But you make it sound like everything Apple does is a conspiracy to trick, deceive, and harm their customers. If that is the case, I do not understand why Apple is considered by the industry to provide the highest quality and service in their products [Consumer's Reports - the last four quarters straight]. > Fortunately, the upgrade cos > have managed to disable the disabler but still, it's pretty repugnant > that > they sabotaged the hardware, after ownership had been transferred away > from > their control. Sabotaged? Do you know how the firmware was designed? Do you know the goals it was meant to accomplish? Firmware is a tool used to provide support for new hardware and software features as they develop. There are trade offs, and installing the firmware, just like installing Mac OS X, just like buying .Mac - are decisions individuals make, Apple is not forcing you to do any of this. I know, I know, you need the firmware to install this other thing, and you want to use the other thing ... but that sorta proves my point, the "other thing" doesn't work without the firmware. And since you make it so clear that you now own your Mac, take responsibility for the choices you make with it. > IIRC there was also a pretty obvious case of such malicious > FirmWare sabotage in one of the laptops (if they didn't want to > include the > feature in those particular computers, they shouldn't have sold the > computers with such a feature, *even* if it wasn't advertised as such). You recall anything about this? The PowerBook model? The feature? The time frame? -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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