on 27/09/03 11:23, Dr. K. Gensberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi again!
> I've cracked mine open and there are 12 cells, type:
> 
> Panasonic Lithium ion CGR17670HC
> 
> I have a pdf file from Panasonic which describes these cells in
> detail, if anyone is interested.
> 
> If anyone has a clue where I could get 24 of these (or equivalent) at
> a sane price, I'd be very happy! Perhaps there's a bulk discount if
> we club together?
> 
> All the best
> 
> Karl
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, September 27, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Tekno Liber wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ?
>> 
>> Well, you might be able to split it apart and put new cells in it. The
>> cells may be standardized OEM parts.
>> 
>> You could at least crack it open, and tell the list what kind of cells
>> are in it. I'd also be curios to know it after you open it, can it be
>> put back together?
>> 
>> Paul

Know that even if you replace the cells, that doesn't mean the battery will
start working again. "Smart" laptop batteries, like the ones in Wallstreet,
Lombard and Pismos, to name a few, have an electronic circuit board that
communicates with the computer to let him know about the state of the
battery. These circuits have apparently a tiny non-volatile RAM that is hard
to reset. If the last information stored is about the battery being dead,
then the battery won't recharge, even with new cells. I know because I did
replace the cells in a Pismo battery but the battery never charged when put
back in the Pismo.

So, beware before forking out some hard earned cash on cells that could be
useless. However, if you want to try, go for it. Maybe you and we will learn
something in the process...

-Laurent.
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