David.... "What do you mean by more expensive? The price is higher or the value is lower? If you mean that the Mac price is higher then you are right. I can buy a PC for a lower price than my Mac. But I get more for my money."
I meant that Mac's are priced higher and that the advantages of more bang for your buck don't matter if you don't have the buck in the first place. Many Mac owner's SAVE their money for a long time in order to buy their Mac...and getting more features standard (ie more initial $$) doesn't matter if the features aren't supported after a couple of years....meanwhile over on your friends PC his "add-on" features that cost him extra after the initial purchase...while fraught with occasional problems and not nearly as pretty as the Mac's..are still working because they are supported. <I won't be installing new updates to my (Mac)OS every week> True...Apple would charge you. :) Of course they also release complete OS's instead of Window's Betas-sold-as-complete-OS...now if they could just figure out a way to stop doing it every year. <Sigh...yes, my PC desktop is much faster than my Mac -> but it doesn't let me write reports any faster.> No, but when you spend so much of your marketing campaign promoting speed...it becomes a tad ironic. <You have described a group of Mac owners but you have left out a very large group - probably the largest. People buy a Mac because it works and it lets them work.> No, I described them as Group #3...those who love the obviously superior OS. I am not bashing or trashing Mac...I'm simply trying to grasp and explain what motivates class action law suits from the Mac User side. People belong to an exclusive club when they buy a Mac and they love it (Dell customer's aren't as rabid as Apple's) and suddenly new Mac stuff (ie OS, etc) comes and as simple as that they are no longer in the club...they're on the fringe..running an outdated OS or using a computer who's features have been retired....I think that's it....I think the Club pass doesn't open the doors anymore and some of us have to watch from the outside of the fence as everyone else swims in the pool of a new OS. Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:57:55 -0500 Subject: Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 10/29/03 2:11 AM, "Edward Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think that all of this stems directly from the Mac culture itself. > > The Mac is a drastically less used, more expensive, and a slower > computer (sorry guys....benchmarks vs reality). What do you mean by more expensive? The price is higher or the value is lower? If you mean that the Mac price is higher then you are right. I can buy a PC for a lower price than my Mac. But I get more for my money. My Mac comes with features that are extras on the PC. My Mac won't cause me the same headaches that my PC will. I won't be installing new updates to my OS every week (each one needed and each one possibly wrecking my OS. And yes, I know that MS is now scheduling them monthly. That just means that my computer is more vulnerable for 29 days than it used to be for 6 days) And when I decide to sell my Mac, several years after I've already sold the PC, I will be able to get more for it. As for the speed issue. Sigh...yes, my PC desktop is much faster than my Mac -> but it doesn't let me write reports any faster. I don't put out a newsletter any faster. I don't browse the internet any faster. I don't write/read email any faster. > The facts are hard...that those who buy > Mac's fit one of three patterns....they make their living on a Mac, > they want to make a living on a Mac, or they love the obviously > superior OS. You have described a group of Mac owners but you have left out a very large group - probably the largest. People buy a Mac because it works and it lets them work. It doesn't grab the user by the nose and force him/her into a pattern decided upon by the programmers. It doesn't assume the user is a moron and needs a wizard. It lets the user get on with the job at hand and stays out of the way. > > Mac forever....even if it's just a museum piece, > Don't you dare call my SE/30 a museum piece - it has a vastly important job - delivering and receiving email for a small non-profit organization. How many 1990 PCs do you know of that are still running without having visited the computer doctor? david -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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