>People have written that some newer drives (ATA6) are not compatible >with the Pismo. What is the symptom of these drives when they don't >negotiatid to ATA5?
No devices on the ATA bus will work ... at all! You cannot boot from the CD/DVD, even if that CD/DVD contains a system installer, or even an "emergency" boot volume. Sure, the devices will appear to power on and become selected, but they will not read or write data. Once the offending hard drive is removed, the ATA bus will again work. Even if the new hard drive is already initialized on, say, a Beige G3 or a B&W G3 (using the appropriate adapter to a 40-pin cable) or even another PowerBook, say, a Wallstreet, which DOES support the new hard drive, it will not work on a Lombard or Pismo because the ATA chipsets in these models cannot auto-negotiate properly. The fault is partly in the drive, but also partly in the 'book. But, as these suspect drives will work in desktops, and also in Wallstreets, one would have to conclude that the fault lies more with the Lombard and Pismo 'books, and less with the suspect drives. The older Hitachi/IBMs ... most particularly the high-capacity 5K80 series ... are known to work with Lombard and Pismo 'books. The older Toshibas are also known to work with Lombard and Pismo 'books. The current Samsung, Hitachi/IBM and Toshiba high-capacity drives are known not to work with Lombard and Pismo 'books. Generally, older drives of 10 GB and below are OK, but later drives of 20 GB and above, other than those specifically mentioned herein earlier, must be evaluated for Lombard and Pismo compatibility on a case-by-case basis. OWC's web site specifically identifies those Toshiba and Hitachi/IBM drives which will and will not work with Lombard and Pismo 'books [ * ]. OWC doesn't sell Samsung drives at all, and one wouldn't expect it to comment on drives which it doesn't sell. OWC's reference is not specific to the Lombard and Pismo 'books, that reference being to "certain PowerBook models", but personal experience has shown that OWC's statement is correct as to the Lombard and Pismo 'books, but incorrect as to Wallstreet 'books. I cannot comment on later 'books as I don't own any past the Pismo. [ * ] OWC has recently updated its web site to delete references to those drives which will not work on Lombard and Pismo 'books. Before, it listed by model number those drives known not to work, among those drives which it sells, and stated that the other drives which is sells were known to work. -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" Send list messages to: <mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---------------------------------------------------------------