On Feb 2, 2006, at 7:25 PM, Peter Apockotos wrote:


Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us.


I don't know whose tag line this is but it is offensive. Only in a country that is controlled by a dictator or is a Communist state would said tag line be true. And while I know our country is a Republic and not a Democratic one. It is our duty to question our representatives and leaders. Not to do so is unpatriotic! Thinking like this will bring the United States down like other great countries of their time. Such as Rome and Babylon. And personally I can't wait for the day that the United States of America is no longer a Republic. I want a Democracy in it's truest meaning. Of course I am a Hellenic-American so you can see why I want a true Democracy.

Peter Apockotos
http://www.apockotos.com
http://www.apokotos.com <-- My correct last name. If the idiot in immigration had a brain when my father came to this country it would be correct.



I share your sentiment Peter, this is an affront to freedom loving Americans. I wonder if that tag line represents the kind of understanding when we talk about rules -- "you are with us or against us". Rules are enforced to govern a system, but as you said, there must be some exercise of freedom and democracy in order for that system to move on and progress. If rules are no longer effective then we can amend or change the rules.

We can follow the rules but if we vitiate from it once in a while, we should not be accused of being UNPATRIOTIC or branded that we are with you or are against you. Honestly guys, I don't like guys who run this e-group but I am not against you. I don't need to like you as a prerequisite of being a member of this e-group anyways.

So lets be clear about us. Lets follow your rules but don't put a Mc Carthy's label on us.

Clem



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