The Beige G3's were originally spec'd for PC66 but I don't think anyone still makes it. PC100 is almost all backwards compatible and some PC133 RAM will
work, but I would stick to PC100 if buying new RAM based on the specs for the beige G3. Mine has all PC 100 RAM in it.


That Apple disclaimer confuses me. There's no reason I know of why there would be a problem unless it's some funky SCSI card. The beige G3's had a really weird acting slow IDE bus so who knows what they slapped in those Macs. The beige G3 is a "transitional" Mac and has some peculiar issues all it's own.
I owned 2 different beige G3's and I won't ever buy another unless it's really cheap. I have a B&W for a little more money and none of the problems I had
with the beige G3's.
There's a reason they sell cheap. As I have said before, I would rather upgrade a 9600 to a G3/G4 than suffer with the voodoo of the beige G3's even with a slower bus speed on the 9600. I have a beige G3 because I got it for $20. All beige G3's should have a PCI SCSI or ATA card for any kind of decent reliability.


What SCSI card is in the beige G3 ? Sounds like the 2906 which does act strange when you use the external and internal connectors at the same time. I would use it for one or the other only. I have one in my B&W with 2 drives attached internally in a RAID and it works fine. If I attach something externally it acts up so I don't do that anymore.

Ron


On Friday, August 20, 2004, at 12:10 PM, MikeRF/A2 wrote:

Hi,

I just dumped my 9500 after spending way too much time and frustration with the case design trying to figure out it's issues. I purchased a G3 Beige/266/DVD MT described as being in almost like-new working and cosmetic condition for $69. I have several Macs (8500, iMac DV+, iBook/700 Dual USB) but this is my first experience with the G3 model.

Apple's original specs say the RAM is PC66 3.3v168 pinSDRAM but I have seen RAM being sold for the G3 listed as PC100. Can someone please clarify the best latest available RAM I can use in this > machine?

Furthermore, this bit of confusion is from an Apple G3 download manual:

"*Warning* Do not connect any SCSI devices to the external 68-pin SCSI-3 connector or to
the internal 50-pin SCSI-2 connector on the PCI card that supports the internal hard disk.
Connecting even one external SCSI device to the external 68-pin connector extends the
overall cable length of the SCSI bus beyond the limit for which error-free operation can be
guaranteed; the combined length of the internal cable and the external cable reduces the
reliability of all the devices connected to the Ultra Wide SCSI bus. Connecting a device to
the internal 50-pin SCSI-2 connector will cause your Ultra Wide SCSI devices to transfer
data at the slower, SCSI-2 rate."


Why are these connectors there if you can't use them? This machine must be able to support multiple drives!?

Thanks,

Mike



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