Ahem. May I ask a technical question or two? About a
Mac??
I have a Beige G3 desktop, 266 mhz, Rev 1 (rats).
It has 416 MB RAM (so far) and came to me secondhand
with an original ATA Apple CD and a Maxtor 15.3 GB
Diamondmax Plus 45 HD, plus a SCSI factory Zip and
added(?) Hungarian-made (for IBM, I think) SCSI HD
that shows up as Product ID ZJCS2-18GB. I believe it
shipped originally with OS 8.1 (got the CD with it)
and was updated to 8.5, then 8.6 (got those too). I
plugged in a Pioneer DVR--103MA burner and it reads
fine, so I bought a set of OS 9.22 / OS X 10.2.4
install CDs, also secondhand: grey, from an eMac. I
partitioned the SCSI HD, moved the OS 8.6 to the first
part, installed OS 9 on the newly partitioned ATA
Maxtor second part and then OS X on the first part.
At least that was my intention. The first thing I
tried was installing OS 9 over 8.6 on the SCSI and OS
X on the ATA and it almost worked, but I was having
trouble with each of the OSs recognizing the other
drives and booting to the other systems. I finally
decided to relegate my older software I want to run,
to a Centris 650 with the RAM maxed and network it to
the G3. I was about ready to go OS X only on the G3,
maybe with an ATI Radeon 7000 to deal with the DVD
compliance issues. BUT NOW...
I did something that was probably stupid... thought
the settings on the CD/DVD might be the problem with
drive recognition (some of the details on that are
getting fuzzy with age, it's been weeks messing with
this), so I tried changing jumpers, even trying slave
on CD and then HD which isn't supposed to work on
this G3 but I was desperate, and now nothing works for
installing OS X. I DID take notes on the original
MaxtorHD/AppleCD settings but lost them! The HD is on
the ATA 0 bus, or channel, and reports ID 0; the
Pioneer is on ATA 1, ID 0, and I don't see anything to
jumper the ID on the CD. I am given to understand
they should both be set to Master, and certainly Slave
and ChannelSelect setting don't work, they create all
kinds of "No bootable" and "can't load" tiny messages
on blank grey screens that stop there. But now, even
both on Master, and after multiple PRAM zaps and a
CUDA goosing (and CUDA seemed to confuse it more), I'm
still have CD boot/install problems. It was able to
recognize 8.6 on the SCSI and run Install for 9.22
from the CD onto the second half of the ATA, but that
doesn't work for the OSX Install. Help? Is anyone
intimately familiar with the jumpers on these drives
on this G3? And with how to straighten this out??
Can anyone tell me if using model-specific OS
versions and just deleting or disabling extensions you
don't need, is a problem? I also tried installing the
8.1 on my Centris, and it seems to run everything I
need it to, but the slightest problem, such as
inserting an OS X -hosed floppy, will seize it solid.
OS 7.6.1 shrugs the same events off ("Initialize this
disk?").
Jim the Redman
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