On 3/1/05 8:58 PM, "G-List" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I disagree completely. Anyone who actually uses his Mac to *work* knows > that it cannot be done in OS X. We even timed it. We do a lot of > pre-press for a lot of magazines with few people and we have a lot of > deadlines, meaning we have to work *fast* and cannot afford to wait. In > a period of time we upgraded all Macs to the latest Panther version at > that time and continued to work. Although we all were experienced OS X > users already, I started with OS X beta, but the same work took two > hours longer only because we had to wait before the OS was done doing > it's things like refreshing screens, spinning beachball etcetera > etcetera. It's sooo slow compared to previous OS's. You had to hear the > shouting and yelling to believe me. Didn't anyone yell and scream when OS9 crashed constantly? I know I did when I was in pre-press. Instead of yelling and shouting, perhaps you should have used that time to upgrade your machines so that they have enough resources to run OSX. Or you could have waited until a technology refresh was warranted and bought machines that could run it effectively. There's only one reason why the things you described happen, you must have put OSX on older machines that couldn't handle it. I have Panther on my machines and *work* on them all the time. It's very fast, but that may be because I upgraded my 450 G4 to 800, and my ram to a gig, and put in a 32 meg Radeon card for each monitor. You are blaming OSX for your decision to upgrade your OS before you upgraded your machines. Don't put others off of a fast and productive OS because of your mistake. You shouldn't have upgraded production boxes without sufficient testing. I run Jaguar on my wife's Beige, but I wouldn't put it in production. > > Ok I like OS X because it's more up-to-date by today's standard and > easier to integrate in a Windows environment f.e. I can use OS X for > my home server with several Macs and PCs, although I could do it with > an older OS aswell, only with some extra software installed. > OS9 as a server? On a home network maybe, with two machines or so, maybe. And it will still crash. A lot. > And it's nice to use it on my old iBook which I'm using now although > not that fast. > I played with a new G5 two months ago and still wasn't impressed by the > speed increase. I cannot imagine how fast it would run on un older OS, > unfortunately that cannot be done. Please. I have Panther on my 700 G3 iBook and I rarely see the beachball. And G5's blaze with Panther. Sounds like more "OS9 Forever!" whining to me. It's over man. Windows won the business desktop, OS9 is done, and by the way, the Amiga was cancelled too. Sorry. And DOS would be wicked fast on a P4 or Xeon, but who cares? > > A collegue of mine has a small home business aswell and since he agrees > that > OS 9 is much faster to do work he's thinking of getting the last G4 > which can dualboot OS 9 and OS X, just so he can use OS 9. What does having a small business have to do with it I wonder? Would OSX be faster in a large business? He must have the same problem you do, that being slower machines not ready for the new OS. > > Too bad that more and more magazines are starting to use Indesign which > only runs at OS X so that we're forced to use OS X. Meaning we have to > get more people and Mac's to get the same work done... Or faster Macs and the same amount of people, but it's your budget friend. > > It's nice to see you'll switchers liking OS X to do some websurfing and > such, but you have no idea how slow it is when you're actually using it > to get some work done. I resent that implication. I do every bit of my work on my properly upgraded G4, or my stock G3 iBook, and never have an issues. And the only time it ever goes down is to upgrade my hardware, or restart after software installation. My uptime is measured in months or years otherwise. And it has literally been years since I have had a crash on the aforementioned G4. I ran a pre-press room, and have worked in many others. I have done web design for a few years now, and I know what *work* and *fast* are. > > /end of rambling. I am dubious of that claim. OS9 fans have not stopped whining since OSX was introduced. Ironically, these were some of the same people whining for apple to develop a modern OS that wasn't spaghetti code and didn't crash all the time. Panther works great for me, but when I'm on my wife's Beige and I see a beachball, I don't blame Apple. I know I'm running it on an old box, so I wait the few seconds it takes and move on. -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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