Thanks Geno. I'll proceed now as you recommend, disconnecting the drive with OS-9 and connecting the SATA card to the 2 internal drives.
Yes, I should have done the CUDA thing earlier, but I was going by Pogue's book and he never mentioned it, and I forgot that you had recommended it. I also didn't know where the darned thing was until you told me. It's quite possible that things are going better right now because I reset that today. Yes, I can boot from the Panther upgrade disk and get to its disk utility program. I'll have that handy in case the OS-X on the internal drive won't boot up. I sure appreciate the advice. Tom 5:04 PM -0600 4/07/2005, Geno wrote: >Hi Tom, I think you're well on your way. > >Actually the cuda button solves many a problems but I thought you had >already tried it yesterday. Was surprised to see your post this morning >regarding the cuda button. > >Anyway, the cuda button is usually my first choice when things go wonky. But >in my experience it's either a no boot at all or a crash or lockup during >boot. > >But you got all the way to the gray screen with a enter a command line. >In the past when I've moved my boot drive around from an ATA card to the MB >ATA slot I've experienced similar gray windows with the command line. You >type what they ask but it doesn't ever do anything. That's why I suggested >the disk utility route first. > >First thing, your cd that has the Panther upgrade on it. Can you boot from >this CD and get access to the disk utility program? > >If you can't then I suggest you burn an emergency CD with Panther on it. I >just did this the other day and it puts Disk Utility on the disk >automatically. > >You can download shareware to create a bootable CD from versiontracker. > >Then I'd disconnect the HD with OS9 on it to be safe, install the SATA card >and the 2 internal drives and see if it boots okay from your old OSX system. > >You may get a gray screen when you do this so you may have to boot from the >emergency disk and repair the disk permissions on your old OSX drive. > >If all works okay, then you can add the rest of your parts and see if you >get a problem. The 50% / 50% elimination process. > >Good luck. Geno > > > > >on 04/07/2005 2:54 AM, Thomas Baker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> At 11:59 AM -0600 4/07/2005, Geno wrote: >>> Tom, I found the post regarding your computer. So its a G4 DA. >>> >>> You haven't reset the cuda button yet? If not this should be your next >>>step. >>> >>> The cuda or PMU is located just above your battery on the MB on the edge of >>> the board. Pull out the power cord from your computer first. The cuda >>>or PMU >>> button a little round silver button. Take the eraser end of a pencil and >>> depress it. Wait 10 seconds and then restart your computer. I usually zap >>> the pram at this point (at least chimes) and then you have to reset your >>> system clock. >>> >>> If you PMU has crashed for all these days, it may have also drained your >>> battery. The life of a new battery will go from 5 years to nothing if the >>> PMU is not reset. So you may need to get a new battery or your computer may >>> still have problems. >>> >>> Good luck >>> >>> Geno >> >> Thanks to all the advice I'm getting here, which is very much appreciated, >> I seem to be making slow progress toward getting my broken OS-X back. Thank >> goodness this is a dual boot machine (G4 733 DA) and I can get back into >> OS-9 to communicate with the list. >> >> Okay, so today I stripped this Mac down to nothing, leaving only the one >> internal hard drive with OS-9.2.2 on it and the original 512k RAM chip. >> Nothing connected but power cord, modem phone line, and monitor cable. Now >> I'm slowly putting the system back together again to see at which point it >> will go wonky, testing after each thing I add. >> >> My original OS-X is on one of the two internal hard drives that I added, >> both drives running off of a FirmTek/SeriTec SATA controller card that I >> bought from OWC several months ago. OS-X always worked fine (six months) >> after I installed it on one of those hard drives, but that's also where it >> crashed from yesterday. At the moment, the controller card is still out, so >> those two internal drives are sitting in the case dead. >> >> I found the CUDA button right where Geno said it was, and followed his >> instructions about resetting it. Next I put the two 512k RAM sticks in, one >> at a time, booting up and testing after each installation, to make sure the >> Mac would start up fine, and that the OS-X 10.2 installer disk would also >> boot. >> >> I was afraid to install OS-X right beside 9 on the internal drive, in case >> that's not a good idea, so the next thing I did was connect the FireWire >> cable that joins my three chained-together external drives to the Mac. The >> computer continued to boot fine into 9.2.2 with them connected, and the >> OS-X 10.2 installer disk also continued to boot. So I proceeded to use the >> installer to put 10.2 on one of the external drives. At this point, the >> external drive boots up just fine into 10.2, and now I can also choose >> whether to start up from the internal drive with 9.2.2 on it or the >> external drive with 10.2 on it. I've done that several times now without a >> glitch. >> >> So far, so good. What should I do next? Maybe put the SATA controller card >> back in a PCI slot, and hook the two internal IDE drives back up to it, and >> see what happens? The crazy-acting 10.3 is on one of them. I'll wait for a >> reply, and meanwhile I'll use my Panther upgrade discs to bump 10.2 up to >> 10.3 on the external drive. That will take awhile, and afterward I'll check >> back here to see if anyone has any thoughts about how best to proceed from >> here. Ideally I'd like to get a properly working OS-X back on the internal >> drive, and then maybe I can keep OS-X on the external one for backup. Or is >> it not such a good idea to have two OS-X's on a Mac? >> >> Thanks all for helping me keep my sanity during all this. 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