On 8 April 2005, Bill wrote: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [G] Problem starting b&w G3
>Hi folks, >I've got a hand-me-down b&w G3 which has worked at >times, but is >currently having trouble starting up. I'm not >getting the start up chime. >Backstory: When i got it, it had a 1ghz Sonnet G4 zif >semi-installed, >and was told it was "broken". (The users at the >company I got it >from typically can't tell cancer from a common cold, >and I've gotten >cheap/free "broken" machines which simply needed a >motherboard >battery or some disk utility work,) When I say semi->installed, the >zif was there, but the required power cord to the zif >and the jumper >block change were nowhere to be seen. I was able to >drop a zif from >a beige i'd upgraded into it and get it running with >no trouble. >I've gotten all the proper components from Sonnet and >attempted to do >the upgrade. Did the firmware update, followed the >directions, hit >cuda, hit cuda and removed the battery & power for a >day, etc, but >no go. It's possible that the zif is fried, but I >have no way to tell >for sure. And one reason I'm not sure is... >When I try to downgrade to the 200mhz zif, it won't >start. Usually I >don't even get a startup chime, though the other >night I tried again >and got one after it sat for many days w/o battery or >power cord. I >blew it, though, as I noticed that I had forgotten to >put the battery >back in and foolishly didn't let it finish the >startup, terminating >it so i could install the battery. Then it went back >to no-chime. >I've done the cuda / let it sit for a day w/o power >or battery / cuda > / attempt restart thing a couple of more times since >then, but still no luck. >Any suggestions? -- >Bill Christensen ><http://greenbuilder.com/contact/> Bill, You didn't mention exactly what was done with the jumpers, but here is my imagined scenario, which could be totally wrong, but maybe... The Sonnett upgrade sounds like it was half-done before you got it, and the system doesn't want to boot. I'm looking at an FAQ on the Sonnett site that says third-party cards that need THEIR firmware updated can cause problems. So let's say this paralyzed it. You tried several things that still didn't fly and decided to see if it would go would with the original processor. Was it a typo or did you actually set jumpers for a 200 MHz chip? If it was 200, you need to reset them for 300 at least, the slowest B&W extant. If that works, you might try replacing the Sonnett and pulling all PCI cards out possible to eliminate those, putting one at a time back in till it brick-walls the system again. You already have the Sonnett site, here's another you might already have too: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ http://www.sonnettech.com/support/default.html Does anything at all come onscreen or does it just stay black? How did you update the firmware? Jim Late note about this: xlr8yourmac FAQs! say the extensions for ATI graphics cards will hang it with the Sonnett, and that this machine doesn't need the cache enabler extension anyway. People have specifically mentioned a problem loading OS9 with this combination. When trying the Sonnett, have you tried loading with extensions disabled from the keyboard? Jim __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[email protected]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
