On Wed, December 28, 2005 16:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here are your sources and many of these sources say that viruses most > surely > can damage hardware. They say not maybe, but can meaning it is a real > possibility.I would have to say we are talking windows not a mac here. I
OK, let's see... http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/2004/virus.asp This says that hardware can be damaged, which is incorrect, and a correction has been submitted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus >From the article: "However, a basic rule is that computer viruses cannot directly damage hardware, but only software." http://opax.swin.edu.au/~303847/ith404/virus.htm >From the article, the only two places where the word hardware is even mentioned: "Even if a virus has been intended to cause no damage, it may do so in certain cases, often due to the incompetence of the virus writer or unexpected hardware or software revisions." ...and... "This will not only protect you from serious damage caused by viruses, but is also necessary in the case of a serious hardware failure." So, out of three references, only one says that a virus can damage hardware. Not a very good reference score in my opinion. Now some of my sources: http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/glossary.aspx#H Computer Associates calls the mythical hardware damaging virus speculation. In other words, there isn't one. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/mini-faq/ "5) There are no viruses which damage hardware by modifying how the mechanical parts run or their electro-magnetic characteristics. There *are* reported instances of specific hardware being damaged by the misuse of specific software. No known viruses damage hardware, and despite many suggestions to the contrary, it is unlikely that one will ever exist." Please note the listing of contributors, one of which is Graham Cluley, who has worked for Dr Solomon's Software, former makers of one of the best AV programs before being bought by McAffee, and now currently works for Sophos, the largest anti-virus company headquartered in Europe. You can find out more at his web site. *Remebers talking to Graham on alt.comp.virus years ago, even before he was hired at Doc Sollys* And finally, http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBMalCode.shtml. The Computer Incident Advisory Capability, under the Death Ray hoax entry, says: "CIAC knows of no virus or any computer program for that matter that has caused physical damage to a computer or cause it to explode." > joined > this group with the intention of helping folks and it is so nice to know > that Spreading misinformation as truth doesn't help anyone. > you like to sit back and pick at folks you do not agree with.I think it > entirely a possibility to just get of the list as all that I did was a > simple > google search and came up with these sources. I mean if I work for said I do not pick at people I don't agree with. I disagree and bring up counterpoints and have them back up their claims. I don't know everything there is to know, but I know enough to do a search on the web and Usenet. > company > a and we get a virus on ten office machines and it destroys all of the > data and > say machine ABC never did any network back up aside from that and it never > touches the hardware did that company not loose money did they not loose > data I > would have to say viruses are problems and cause damage .I want to thank Sure, they cause software and data damage, that point was not under debate. You said /hardware/ damage. That is what you were called on and have yet to show any proof of this. > you for assuming you know every thing their is to know and that an > ignorant > fellow like myself that makes a lot of money needs you to tell me I need > to > spell check so thank all of you have been helpful to me in the past as And what does the amount of money you make have to do with anything? I've known some very good people who didn't make a lot, and others who made large amounts that didn't know what they were talking about. Being able to compose a message that is readable is important for everyone, no matter what they do. To help someone, the someone who are trying to help needs to be able to understand you. (Personally, when someone brings up how much they make at work, it tells me that they are loosing, know this, but their pride won't let that happen, so they try using the money stick thinking that making a lot of money instantly buys them credibility. Of course, this is my own opinion and is not an attack on anyone.) So, if you are going to leave over two people debating a theory you have and wanting proof, so be it. Have a nice life, don't take any wooden nickels, and don't venture into the alt groups on Usenet. Some of those groups tends to be very nasty in their debates. -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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