On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 03:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Charles Davis wrote:
Beige MT, 400Mc G4, 768M, USB ports, Track Ball
OSX.2.8, all current security updates.
OSx starts, loads 'toolbar' (thats how I can get this far)
Misspoke DOCK
Toolbar has icons for "Finder", "Internet Connect", "Safari", "Mail",
& others.
WHAT others? This is critical! If you can get to terminal, you're
golden, you can run anything.
I do happen to have a 'Terminal' icon in the DOCK
The internet Connect & Mail items let me get here. I will be able to
read responses.
Symptoms - Click on Finder Icon, brings up a message box "Finder Not
Running".
Bringing up anything else, also brings up the 'tool bar'.
What do you mean the 'Tool Bar'? The Dock? The thing at the bottom of
your screen with the icons? Unfortunately, terminal isn't one of the
default apps.
Right!!! see correction above.
In the 'Tool Bar' space at the top of screen, the 'Eject Icon (never
has worked, just ignored), 'connect icon/phone icon', 'Volume Icon',
and Time are in place and functional.
DOCK icons are NOT default set. I have cleaned out never used things
and added others.
Full list of DOC icons present.
FINDER click gets a "FINDER not running" info box.
Internet Connect click will open & run
Also, any of these below, will have their own 'Tool Bar' at the top of
the screen
Safari "
Mail "
NewsReader Haven't tried
Address Book "
System Preferences "
Terminal Thought it could be useful, but don't have a
clue.
CPU Monitor Haven't tried
One other thing I just tried and it works 'Apple'-p to print.
Problem: No Finder, no access to directories, can't back things up to
be able to safely "Nuke & pave".
Now, I can bring up OSX on another HD, but I need to know what files
to look for and where they are supposed to be, to make a repair
effort.
Create a new admin user if you can get System Preferences going, and
see if the issue persists. If it doesn't, it's a user prefs or startup
item issue.
For example: if you can get to terminal enter the following:
/Applications/System\ Preferences.app/Contents/MacOS/System\
Preferences
And hit return, this will start the System Preferences folder. (the
back slashes are critical, they tell the OS that the space is part of
the file path, not a part of the command)
You can do this for ANY application:
/Applications/<application name>.app/Contents/MacOS/<application name>
Need to figure out the program to use and try this.
Will run the program.
Heck try:
/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Just tried this in Term. no change in anything.
Safari will also let you open Finder windows, but I don't know if that
requires Finder to be functioning:
Just tried that --- Couldn't find Finder as an option anywhere.
Tried 'Opening file & Opening Location' Neither would run 'Dragon Burn'
(CD software)
file://<directory path>/ will open a finder window to the path.
No finder available to try.
If Finder starts all right, then something's blcoking the startup
sequence before it gets to Finder, look in /Library/StartupItems or
/Users/<user>/Library/StartupItems to find things to remove.
If not it's a systemic issue.
If it's a user issue go to /Users/<username>/Library/Preferences and
delete com.apple.finder.plist.
If it's a systemic issue, do an Archive&Reinstall followed by the
10.2.8 upgrade.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to go this way.
Chuck D.
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