At 9:14 PM +0100 02/17/2006, Peter Udbjørg wrote:

As mentioned by other posters, a "virus" one has to willingly download, and then supply with admin pw & un, is not a virus.

Right. It depends on no actual security hole -- it's simply a piece of malware that depends on a certain amount of stupidity to occur between the chair and keyboard. I believe the politically correct phrase for this is "human engineering".

The success or failure of such malware on Macs will be a testimate to the IQ of Mac users...

However, I picked this line up on "The Registry":"OS X running on x86 means that the skills that people have developed and a lot of the tools people have created for finding problems, analysing problems, and writing the code to take advantage of them, will work," he said. "They no longer need to learn a different assembler or a different memory architecture." Now tell me this is not horse manure. The new Intel inside the MacIntels are not the old fashioned x86 ones inside any gray Wintel-box, right?

The Register has it right.

The x86 Macs are simply computers, just like Wintel boxes. Right now, the only real diff in the hardware is that the Macs use EFI and the Wintel boxes use BIOS. If hackers can wedge BIOS support into OS X then (+/- a few other issues) it will run on standard wintel boxes.

AND to look at it from the virus' point of view... x86 code is x86 code. It will run equally well on either platform. At issue is what can the viral code *do*. IF OS X implements the proper memory protection schemes, then the viral code can only screw around in the mode in which it's running. Typically that means a lower-privileged user mode, so damage will be limited. Once the virus figures out what OS is running, it can then implement appropriate system calls to do Other Things. Bottom line: Monolithic viral code. :(

And the OSX'es running on various wintel x86-boxes have been more or less rude hacks.

For now.

I do not think for a million monetary untis I could install an out-of-the-box OSX on a (creepy) pee-cee. I would have to resort to some sort of mumbo-jumbo, sort of like a XpostFacto for pee-see's. And why in the name of (insert favourite deity here) would any sensible person do that? Not for any serious use, just to show off.

What we want is Mac OS X.
If we can have it on without the $$$$$ hardware, ...

- Dan.

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