On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:49 PM, JEB wrote:

> I downloaded and installed Hard Disk Speed Tools for OS 9 to a
> Firewire external drive.  Then I  booted from the OS 9.1 installation
> CD, and opened HDST to partition the internal drive.  I set the
> partitions at 7800 MB, and 123,272 MB so that the third partition is
> exactly at 131,072 MB (7800 + 123272 = 131, 072), with a third volume
> = 21555 MB.

I've got two Beige, a DT and a MT both Rev.B but one has a Rev.C ROM.  
Both have G4 CPU and both have WD 160 GB HDs. I partitioned EXACTLY as  
you have. I installed OS 9.1 onto the 21555 MB third partition, and OS  
X 10.4.11 onto the 7800MB partition and when it was fully upgraded to  
10.4.11 I cloned it over onto the 123,272MB partition and then booted  
from this largest partition using the 7800MB partition as the XPF  
Helper Disk. All three partitions boot normally using XPF. I use the  
small OS X partition as a repair disk to repair problems on the large  
partition without needing to boot a CD.

> Then I closed HDST and installed 9.2.1 from the CD.
> Here's where the problems start.  The installation crashed unless I
> unclicked the "Install Apple HHD drivers" option.

If you "install Apple HD drivers I believe this effectively kills the  
Speedtools recognition of the full 160MB in OS 9. In OS X you must  
also have the Intech Hi-Cap extension installed onto both OS X Systems  
in order to see that final 21555MB partition.


> When that option is not chosen, it completed installation  
> successfully.
> If I try to restart or shutdown from the Special pulldown menu, the  
> screen locks
> up.  I can force a restart using command/control - power button
> combination, but it boots back to the installation CD.   When it
> restart, I get an error message in a yellow box, "The application
> Finder has unexpected quit.  You should save your work in other open
> applications and restart the computer."
>
> I've tried all the permutations/ combinations that I can think of, but
> am stuck.  Looks like I don't have a bootable internal HHD.  Help.
> Thanks in advance for any advice.

I'm not sure what the problem is here. You first said a 9.1 CD, and  
then later you said 9.2.1. These are very different animals. I've used  
both 9.1 and 9.2.2 on the Beige, I think 9.1 works best myself,  
especially with XPF. You need to install 9.1 (or 9.2.2) onto that 3rd  
partition if you're using OS X as your main OS. If not, put it  
wherever you want, remembering OS 9 has NO 1st 8GB limitation, it can  
be anywhere, it's only OS X that has the 1st 8GB limit, and even then,  
cloning and using XPF's Helper Disk makes ANY partition bootable,  
including external Firewire HDs attached to a PCI Firewire card, which  
was my preferred way to boot the Beige.

Some of the ATI extensions with 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 conflict with the  
internal Rage video of the Beige. I disabled my internal video using  
Open Firmware commands and use a Radeon card instead. The instructions  
for disabling onboard video is available here:
<http://forum.macsales.com/viewtopic.php?t=941>

If you're using the onboard video, or have a Wings AV card with AV  
input/output you need to use in OS 9, there are two extensions that  
cause conflict in 9.2 that you MUST use the 9.1 versions to avoid  
conflict and to enable the Wings card to work. These two extensions  
are "ATI Video Accelerator & ATI Resource Manager". Both these MUST be  
the OS 9.1 versions. If you don't have a 9.1 install CD, you can  
download the free 9.1 updater from Apple and use TomeViewer to extract  
the needed extensions. This could be your problem in 9.2.1 and all  
you'd need to do is startup with extensions disabled using the Shift  
key at startup and then remove these two for the next startup (uncheck  
them in Extensions Manager). Also, if you're using OS X and XPF,  
remember NEVER to use Apple Startup Disk from either OS 9 or OS X and  
ONLY use XPF to select the startup System. One easy trick is to use  
the Option key at startup to force OS 9 booting. Since this is  
temporary, the next restart should go back to your OS X System if that  
was the normally selected startup partition. If you use Apple Startup  
Disk you'll probably have to remove the PRAM battery, disconnect the  
Power Supply cable from the Motherboard and press the CUDA to reset  
the PRAM/NVRAM. The normal procedure doesn't always work on the Beige  
because there is some residual power from capacitors in the power  
supply that don't allow the PRAM/NVRAM to always fully reset. It's a  
real pain, so try to remember that once you're using XPF, ONLY use XPF  
to select the startup System.

Good luck!


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