On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:57 PM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > • Single "boop" on startup [1 update] > • Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash? [2 > updates] > • Multiple messages [1 update] > • G4 powerbook with leopard as start up disk for G4 desktop with > 9.2? [3 updates] > • Newbie: Help! Powermac G4 Dual 867Mhz Mirror Door [18 updates] > Topic: Single "boop" on startup > • Bill Christensen <billc_li...@greenbuilder.com> Nov 14 05:52PM > -0600 > • > > • Hi folks, > • > • I've got a G4 that's giving me startup problems. > • > • I've tried replacing most everything but the motherboard, but > am > • currently just getting a single "boop" tone on start up. And I > can't > • remember what the likely problem is when that happens, as I > don't > • recall having that occur previously to any of my machines. > • > • I've swapped processors, ram, PRAM battery and powersupply (the > • previous one would start and immediately shut off) with known > working > • versions (except the processor, which goes in the assumed > working > • category). > • > • Am I looking at a fubar'd mobo? > • > • > • -- > • Bill Christensen > • <http://greenbuilder.com/contact/> > • > • Green Building Professionals Directory: > <http://directory.greenbuilder.com> > • Sustainable Building Calendar: > <http://Calendar.SustainableSources.com> > • Green Real Estate: <http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/> > • Straw Bale Registry: <http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/> > • Books/videos/software: <http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/> > • > Topic: Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash? > • Paul <pper...@gmail.com> Nov 14 01:11PM -0800 > • > > • Has Flash gotten worse, or were we suffering in the stone age > when we > • had 400 MHz machines? > • > • Bruce Johnson <john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> Nov 14 02:19PM > -0700 > • > > • > • On Nov 14, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Paul wrote: > • > • > Has Flash gotten worse, or were we suffering in the stone age > when we > • > had 400 MHz machines? > • > • > • > • Yes. :-) > • -- > • Bruce Johnson > • > • "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD > • > • > Topic: Multiple messages > • rmwoods <rmwo...@interlog.com> Nov 14 12:37PM -0800 > • > > • All of a sudden a few days ago my subscription changed from one > or two > • daily digests to a copy of every message. It's too much on my > slow > • connection. I have tried to change my settings, to no avail so > far. I > • tried again just now. Let's see what happens tomorrow. > • I still like to read the various messages, although perforce, > for now, > • I am having to use an old PC. It's just not the same. > • > Topic: G4 powerbook with leopard as start up disk for G4 desktop with 9.2? > • Dwight Hines <dwight.hi...@gmail.com> Nov 14 10:07AM -0500 > • > > • I have a power g4 running leopard and want to use it as start > up disk for my > • Desktop G4 that is running OS-9.2. > • > • What is the best way of doing that? > • > • Dwight Hines > • St. Augustine, Florida > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 08:12AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 8:07 AM, Dwight Hines wrote: > • > I have a power g4 running leopard and want to use it as start > up disk > • > for my Desktop G4 that is running OS-9.2. > • I'm not sure 9.2 will recognize the option I'm aware of, that > being > • Firewire startup option. But you for sure can do so if the > desktop has OSX. > • > • Charles Davis <c...@gamewood.net> Nov 14 02:14PM -0500 > • > > • > • On Nov 14, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > • > • > has OSX. > • > > • It's the G4 firmware, that recognizes the 'Target Disk Mode' > ---- NOT > • the 9.2 Operating system. > • > • Chuck D. > • > Topic: Newbie: Help! Powermac G4 Dual 867Mhz Mirror Door > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 03:51AM -0800 > • > > • Hi, I messed up BIG time! > • > • After installing a new HDD, I pressed the ON/OFF button a > couple of > • times upon seeing that the HDD is not recognised (the > multi-colored > • wheel kept on spinning when I clicked on the new HDD icon). I > know I > • should not do that but that's too late now! > • > • Now, the G4 just shows the grey screen with the Apple logo and > is > • stuck there. I suspect I may have destroyed the boot record by > • pressing the ON?OFF switch a few times. > • > • I am trying to boot using the 10.5 install disk (Retail) but it > just > • don't work. I booted up G4 while pressing the Option button but > the > • screen show both the install CD and my system HDD marked "X". > • > • What should I do? I would really appreciate some advice! Thanks! > • > • Patrick > • > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:31AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 4:51 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: > • > What should I do? I would really appreciate some advice! > Thanks! > • Try formatting the HD using the install disc. If it does not > show up > • under disc utility, then you may have to find a utility like > Gparted, > • put that on a disc and format and partition the HD. You may > also want to > • check the jumper on your HD, especially if another device is on > the same > • channel you put it. > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 05:53AM -0800 > • > > • I can't seem to boot, so how do I get to the disc utilty? I > have to > • fall back to Windows to get into this forum. If I use Gparted, > do I > • have to burn it to the CD in Mac? Can I do it in Windows? I can > only > • use WIndows now. Lastly, how do I check whether another device > is on > • the same channel? Sorry for all these questions, but I'm > desperate! > • > • > • Chance Reecher <cnrtechh...@gmail.com> Nov 14 09:03AM -0500 > • > > • Is this a second HD you just installed? Try removing it and see > if you > • can boot normally. > • > • > • -- > • Chance Reecher > • 765-4609 > • 491-2286 > • cnrtechh...@gmail.com > • AIM: cnrtechhead > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 07:05AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 6:53 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: > • > If I use Gparted, do I > • > have to burn it to the CD in Mac? > • No, you can burn gparted on a windows machine. > • Can I do it in Windows? I can only > • > use WIndows now. > • Lastly, how do I check whether another device is on > • > the same channel? Sorry for all these questions, but I'm > desperate! > • Look at the IDE cable in the machine; is the HD the only > connected to > • that cable? Or, do you have something else there. > • > • Now that I know you have a Windows machine, why don't you take > the HD > • out and put it in an external case, or into the windows box and > check it > • out...make sure it's working. You can then format it in there, > not as > • NTFS, but as DOS. And then once you know it works, we can move > onto > • other issues, if you're still have a problem. BTW, check the > disc for > • scratches or oil. > • > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:10AM -0800 > • > > • Done that, but still not booting. > • > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:21AM -0800 > • > > • To narrow down the possible causes, I have removed the HD for > time > • being, but still no luck. I'm also downloading Gparted now. In > the > • meantime, will Disk Warrior help? > • > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 07:27AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 7:21 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: > • > being, but still no luck. I'm also downloading Gparted now. > In the > • > meantime, will Disk Warrior help? > • DW might, I've never used it. > • > • I may have missed it, or you did not mention that there's > another HD in > • the machine that has OSX installed on it. If that's the case > and it's > • not booting into that OS, perhaps you could say what it does > when you > • boot using the older HD and we can go from there. > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:33AM -0800 > • > > • Sorry if I did not mention that! That is the problem. I can't > boot > • with the older HD now, which is installed with the OSX. > Therefore, I > • can't use the G4 at the moment. I thought I might be able to > install > • OSX again by booting from the CD but it doesn't work. I've read > • somewhere that you can't boot from the install CD. > • > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:34AM -0800 > • > > • It only shows the grey screen with the Apple logo. No spinning > wheel. > • > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 07:35AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 7:33 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: > • > I can't boot > • > with the older HD now, which is installed with the OSX. > • What happens when you try to boot? Please say. That question > was on the > • last post. > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 07:38AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 7:34 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: > • > It only shows the grey screen with the Apple logo. No > spinning wheel. > • Here's what I will do first. Take the power cord out from the > mains. > • Remove and replace the memory, video card, and the ribbon cable > and > • power cable that goes to the HD and DVD/CD drives. Once > everything is > • connected and seated well---you will know because you'd take > time to put > • them back in carefully---hit the power button and wait. Then > come and > • say what happened. > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:38AM -0800 > • > > • It only shows the grey screen with the Apple logo. No spinning > wheel. > • And it will be like that forever. > • > • > • Chance Reecher <cnrtechh...@gmail.com> Nov 14 09:41AM -0500 > • > > • Switch your boot drive to the other ATA bus. > • > • Patrick Lee wrote: > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 06:57AM -0800 > • > > • Did that and it's the same. Grey screen with Apple logo - no > spinning > • wheel. I've waited like 5 minutes or so. I think I've messed up > the HD > • with the OSX pretty badly! > • > • > • Nestamicky <nestami...@gmail.com> Nov 14 08:06AM -0700 > • > > • On 11/14/09 7:57 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: > • > wheel. I've waited like 5 minutes or so. I think I've messed > up the HD > • > with the OSX pretty badly! > • Does it bong/chime when you start it up? I will also consider > setting > • aside the old HD and put the new one in and then retry booting > from the > • disc. Or, you can also retry with it. The computer is not > seeing the OS > • on the old HD, the reason you're seeing the Apple logo...I > think. > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 07:26AM -0800 > • > > • It worked! Thanks! The strange thing is, I tried putting it > back to > • the previous ATA bus, and it failed. So, I gather this ATA bus > or the > • cable is busted. I'll try to switch the cable later to see whtr > the > • cable is the culprit. Thanks again Chance, and Nestamicky for > your > • advice! You guys are the best! > • > • > • Patrick Lee <patrick8...@gmail.com> Nov 14 07:38AM -0800 > • > > • Nope! It's not the cable. 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