On Sunday 07 December 2008 14:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I find it curious that such a great piece of software doesn't have a > better updated website and a bug/tracking system.
Gambas is a project with a benevolent dictator, namely Benoit, who does most of the work and prefers mailing lists for bug reporting. You can sign up for notification of the subversion commits to see which bugs get fixed, as well. I just looked at the project website (gambas.sf.net) and it correctly indicates that the current stable version is 2.9.0. It provides a download link to that and instructions for checking out the development snapshots. What do you see there that could be better updated? There are forums out there, but what the community lacks is people who actually care about web forums. I try to stay on top of linuxbasic.net which gets 5 or 10 posts per week, but when you get right down to it, mailing lists come to me whereas I have to go to a web forum. Gambasforum.tk gets a few posts a week as well. Some other guy was trying a couple months ago to start a catch-all BASIC forum site, sort of a linuxbasic.net knockoff only with lots of added Windows users, but none of us had time to visit yet another forum. The Gambasrad.org forums, once you set aside the mirrored content of this mailing list, are pretty quiet so I haven't been there in some time. I just went there now and see that it calls itself the "Gambas home page", but that doesn't seem to be the case. If you came across that and were led to believe it was the project website, I can understand why you'd complain about its outdatedness since the most recent announcement was 13 months ago today. > I think we as a community need to expand this knowledge. The Gambas wiki started when I took the original Openoffice document Benoit created to document Gambas 0.30 (or thereabouts) and converted it into a format a wiki could handle so that people could add documentation and a static version could be created for inclusion in the IDE. I did this without asking for permission and without being told to. Only when it turned out to be usable (and Benoit had made many suggestions and improvements) did it become "the Gambas wiki", eventually being replaced entirely with Benoit's custom wiki code that we run today. In other words, the only way things ever get done in free software is through someone who takes the initiative. Please don't feel you need to ask before doing something for the community, though it's also important not to get too discouraged if what you think the community needs turns out to be not as useful as you thought. Starting (and keeping well-organized and on-topic) an examples repository would be a great idea if you have that kind of time. And time is really the limiting factor. When I set up the original wiki in early 2003, I had some clients who needed a lot of Gambas work in preparation for a push to Linux desktop deployment, so it was easy to dedicate some of my time to the wiki, and to maintaining Gambas packages for Mandrake, and to writing gb.pcre and working on other components my clients needed. Now the push for Linux desktops has turned into a push for thin clients and web-based applications, at least where I am, so Gambas is back to being just a personal interest of mine that takes up some of my left over free time. If your situation affords you more time, I hope you'll step up. Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user