On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:09:41 am Charlie Reinl wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 31.03.2009, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Benoît Minisini: > > > I am not saying people should charge for tutorials, I am saying that it > > > would not be unreasonable if they did. Benoit has done a momentous > > > amount of work in creating Gambas. ANd Richard's idea about annodated > > > code is a great one- except for one flaw. > > > > > > That flaw is for the beginner without a systematic method of learning > > > the language the odds are stacked against him /her. > > > > > > But like I said earlier why not have both? > > > > > > SOme people can see an example and go OH that's how it works- and > > > others need more help. Good example: Algebra why can't kids just look > > > at the example and understand it? Even when the example has comments > > > the children have a hard time following- but with guided instruction > > > and guided questions and answers then child is more likely to > > > understand the math. > > > > > > Same works for adults not everyone does well solo with a textbook. > > > > > > Plus another problem is when people just cut and paste code without > > > knowing what all the code is for becuase they are told it does x but in > > > reality it does xyz. > > > > > > As far as more work for Benoit I am trying to come up with a way to > > > lighten the load. :) > > > > > > I rreally do understand what you are saying, but I think people are > > > thinking I a looking to replace a current method. I am not I want to > > > another resource to the same methods. For the dummies like my self. > > > > > > JB > > > > > > charlesg wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > As one of the great unwashed (i.e. less proficient) Gambas users, I > > > > must say that I prefer Richards approach using annotated code > > > > examples at a simple level. I don't really feel comfortable with the > > > > idea of a paid-for tutorial system and feel that 'we' as a user base > > > > should freely contribute to the project. There is no chance of us > > > > ever equaling the stupendous contribution of Benoit and to consider > > > > charging for any contribution that we make is, I feel, not in the > > > > spirit of Gambas. > > > > > > > > I wrote a small intro tutorial to Gambas which features quite well on > > > > a Google search. I put it on a Wordpress blog so that I could get > > > > some stats. It is currently viewed about 300 times a month. > > > > > > > > Benoit has also kindly used a program of mine as a Gambas example. > > > > The examples in Gambas could be extended with a beginners section > > > > although I could see this ending up as being yet more work for > > > > Benoit. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > Would it be possible to have both solutions? I mean: > > > > 1) A web site to enter well-commented and well-written pieces of code, > > tagged so that searching is easy. > > > > 2) An http interface so that the IDE can use these pieces of code as > > project examples automatically. > > > > We must have two types of examples. A full Gambas project that will be > > used as is by the IDE, or a little piece of code inside one Form, or a > > Module. Then the IDE will create a temporary project to open it. > > > > Guys, what do you think about that? > > Salut, > > and what is, if you don't have no easy Internet-Access at home?
I really really agree. I live in the middle of a biggist city (Newastle NSW) and there are 6 houses in my street that cannot get ADSL, and even my mobile phone dosn't work properly in the house. Wireless is very flakey and very very expensive and I can't afford satellite, so yes, a downloadable repository, integrated with the IDE. Richard > > Ok, first, stop: I find this is a good solution! > > But I think the IDE should have a downloaded repository for the > "Snippets", that could be a simple database file, so everybody can get > easily updates (from the internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user