so do I, and when those that don't like them are in range I just don't run them.

At 05:37 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi Dark,

Well,  you are right. A lot of the censorship of games etc isn't based
on any kind of rational discussion of the facts. If a game has a witch
or wizard its automatically considered to be evil. Not because it
really is evil as most people understand it today, but because of a
verse in Deuteronomy that says Christians are not to be partakers of
witchcraft, astrology,  communicate with familiar spirits, etc. This
of course then brings up the whole discussion of what exactly does it
mean to be a partaker of it. Does it mean not to practice it or merely
read a book or play a video game where the main character happens to
be a witch or wizard. Apparently not even all Christians can agree on
what partaking of witchcraft really means, and have to use their own
personal judgment.

Still, like you I think the simplest and best solution is simply not
to download or play that type of game if a person finds it
objectionable. I have played a lot of adult oriented games that have a
little disclaimer at the beginning of the adventure which says if you
find this game objectionable exit the game and don't play it. That's
as simple and straight forward as you can get. Yet, for some reason
some people have to make a big deal over it because they can't simply
ignore it and let other people enjoy it if they want to. Such people
just don't know how to be rational about their own beliefs I guess.

Cheers!


On 4/18/13, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> It also amuses me when christians disagree with magic on principle, because
>
> I have met several wickens who practice "magic" which they see simply as a
> practical way of praying to god "or the goddess aspect of God depending upon
>
> the brand of wicken"
>
> thus, a spell to rid yourself of trouble could be as simple as pouring your
>
> troubles into a cup full of water and pouring them away. it is no different
>
> to someone saying a conventional prayer, it's just done in a symbolic way
> much the way a catholic might say a rosery or indeed the way some churches
> use insents or the blessing o the cross.
>
> it's also worth remembering that most of the classic works of fantasy
> literature never actually mention! magic in spells. Lotr doesn't, indeed
> most of what is magic in the book is personal power, will and charisma, as
> well as powers of insite such as those of galadriel, while the Narnia books
>
> use the term "magic" directly to describe works of Aslan and the rules of
> the world, eg "the deep magic before the dawn of time"
>
> I don't believe harry potter has this sort of lexical info on magic or that
>
> jk has confirmed what it is, though as an interesting point it's worth
> remembering Arthur C clarke's dictum that any sufficiently advanced
> technology would appear as magic (I'm pretty sure people two or three
> hundred years ago would've thought tv, electric lights much less my ability
>
> to write this message and for it to be read all over the world instantly is
>
> pretty magical).
>
> So bringing this back to games, i really don't see the christian arguement
> or why someone wouldn't play a game like sarah or an rpg. Then again, I
> often find those sorts of views aren't really based on rationality, or any
> sort of reasonable expectation so much as just "it looks wrong"
>
> which, bringing this back to oursensorship discussion is why simply
> descriptions of what something roughly contains are likely the best, since
> then, if somebody objects to the word magic, they can just not play sarah or
>
> whatever, just the same way i myself avoid adult games.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
>
> Dark.
>
>
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