Quote:  "If I want money for my product, I have to check
orders at least once in a day, otherwise I lose my clients and, yes, get them to opt for the cracked product rather than buying from another developer" end quote.

How else can that be taken? Isn't he suggesting that if they don't get their registration key within 24 hours, they should get a pirated copy? And blaming a developer for not getting a registration code to a customer within 24 hours, even though they may have a very fair policy that you should wait for at least 72 hours is just flat crazy, because there may be Internet problems, or, as I pointed out, it might be during a week end.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Strunk" <ryan.str...@gmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?


Slow your roll, Charles. We obviously have different interpretations of his
second point, but I would guess, given the nature of his entire post, that
he isn't advocating piracy. Rather he's saying that, given people's natural
tendency toward impatience--misguided or not--if they don't get what they
want, they will turn to piracy. The solution to that is to get your codes
out quicker.
Deep breaths, my man.

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Rivard
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:47 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

Your comments, followed by my responses:
Comment:
If one doesn't get the key in 24 hours, then the developer should be
blamed.
Response:  So, if I were to purchase something on Saturday evening, the
developer is to get my registration key to me by Sunday evening?  If more
people felt this way, there goes a developer's weekend with family, and they
get no time off, all due to gamer's total lack of understanding and
patience! This attitude is exactly what I was talking about in my original post on this thread, and there! is! no! excuse! for! it! being! tolerated!!!

You say:   If I want money for my product, I have to check orders at least
once in a day, otherwise I lose my clients and, yes, get them to opt for the
cracked product rather than buying from another developer as they get
frustrated quite like the developers do about the complaints.
my response: If your clients behave that way, then I strongly suggest that
you get other clients.  And to make matters worse, you? condone? piracy??
If I had anything to say about this list, and keep in mind that this is my
personal opinion, you would be banned from this list, and I would do
something about your advertising of the fact that you have no problem in
having a hand in piracy for the simple fact that your clients are impatient.

Suggesting to your clients that they should get a cracked copy of software
rather than wait for a legal one is downright deplorable, and you should be ashamed of yourself, although you apparently are not. I know one thing for sure: Knowing what I now have read directly from you, I would never do any
business with you, and I suggest that all others take the same stance
against your despicable business practices.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Milos Przic" <milos.pr...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?


Hi Charles,
Yes. About release dates I agree 100 percent. But about getting
registrations not quite. If one doesn't get the key in 24 hours, then the
developer should be blamed. If I want money for my product, I have to
check orders at least once in a day, otherwise I lose my clients and, yes,

get them to opt for the cracked product rather than buying from another
developer as they get frustrated quite like the developers do about the
complaints.
Best!
         Milos Przic
twitter: MilosPrzic
skype: Milosh-hs
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
To: "audyssey gamers list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 4:00 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?


A thought on impatience: Some people gripe about the length of time taken

by developers to come out with a new game.  Some people gripe if they
don't get a registration key right away. Some people gripe about the fact

that they don't have enough games to play.  Strangely enough, these 3
complaints come from pretty much the same few people.  These are also the
same people who want cheat codes very shortly after they get a new game.

Have you noticed what always seems to happen when these complainers
really get on a roll?

James North produced many very good games and then quit.  Why did this
occur??  Liam has voiced frustration, to say the least, and has openly
voiced a consideration of quitting.  Why?  Other producers of games have
also vacated the premises.  Guess why?

I commend those developers who have stuck it out and continue working for

those of us who do care about and respect them.  For those of us who
don't, and who only care about themselves and what they want, when they
want it and no later, what's it going to take for you to learn what you
cause?  It's about time you grow! up! and think about someone other than
you for a change.

Yes, I'm angry, and I think I have a darned good reason to be.  Although
I don't create games, I care about those who do, and it just flat burns
me up when you drive these creators away with your selfish and downright
childish behavior!



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