I aggree with you tom I wouldn't do what I said either but I feel
like doing so I can't imagine what aprone went through.
Yesterday I had a simular situation.
A program I was testing and designing sfx for had a major change that
basically left all my work potentually gone for good and dead as its
plot had changed some what.
This happened with out warning though I know quite well that while in
testing things change without notice usually.
It was just I had set things up and such.
I knew, that I couldn't at least without turning the game into a joky
piece of crap and at any rate I did not have the will to bother.
I did change enough of the stuff I could change, so that, things
could sound at least for me a bit more like the theme.
As it was it did not quite happen, the dev was happy with my work
though one of my atmosphere changes did make it into the game,
replacing one of the tother sounds.
I was just going ahead and wishing I had known earlier though to be
honest it was not all the devs fault I was in such a bad mode that day.
The night previous, one of the power boxes that has all my
electronics on it decided to explode just as I was thinking about
powering down.
I was not moving things round the hard drives or was doing anything
crazy which would have sertainly done dammage, but still it was bad
as I thought one of my drives had died.
I managed to replace the box with a temperary solution but it still
took me half of the next day to remove the old box, put in the new
one and reset all the power.
However thanks to batteries in the laptop and the serge protecters, I
did not loose any equipment.
At 11:36 AM 10/23/2013, you wrote:
Hi Thomas, I totally agree with you, it's stupid and childish to
hack into something and spoil many months of hard work. I know for
sure that if the comunity on line aspect of Swamp was taken away,
then it'd lose it's following, as not all people know how to host
servers, and off line mode would just get too much the same after a
while, you might as well just use campaign mode. It's the only fps
game which is online, and should stay that way!
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:15 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] happy birthday Swamp
Hi Shaun,
As usual you are going to absurd extremes. Since we don't really know
who is to blame for the attacking of the Swamp servers etc why should
Aprone wipe out his servers, his source code, etc and punish the
entire community for the actions of a few jerks. Even if it is a few
disreputable blind people behind the attacks that's no reason for
Aprone to punish everybody for their actions. That is, as I have said,
just absurd.
As for hacking being human nature I don't believe that for a moment.
For one thing legitimate hackers resent being tarred with the same
brush as criminals, and the correct term is cracker not hacker. At any
rate crackers are generally disreputable people who get a kick out of
breaking someone's stuff for the enjoyment of it, and are for the most
part social deviants. There is no reason we should just sit back and
accept it or brush it off as "human nature." If possible we should
hunt them down and punish them like the criminals they are by seeing
them do some jail time.
Cheers!
On 10/22/13, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well ken I can accept the hacking its just human nature.
This last one, really makes me want to bash someone's f**king face in.
I can understand spammy hacks, and the cheating
hacks, I myself joke round and if I can get away with it so be it.
But I'd never take advantage of anyone, spoil it
for anyone or cheat to gain anything at least not
online, offline its a different matter ofcause.
and even then I try not to.
But basically burning down the house.
This is hard to swollow.
It may have been fun I must admit and funny, but
intentional or not hacking has become real trouble.
And if I was aprone personally I would shut down
all servers, reformat all my boxes, make sure I
could never get at any of my code again and go and have a life!
I wouldn't hesitate.
It helps that most of the people that do this are not on the primary
circle.
Most of us have been on here since the magazine came online in 96.
A lot of us are on the forums to and most on
there bar a few people in the outer rims are generally ok.
A few are kids that muck round and cause issues but they are kids.
However this was clearly an organised attack.
It probably was not from anyone bar underground
lerkers and could have origionated from outside the gameseen.
If I was aprone that would be the only reason not to do what I put above.
Ofcause if it was ever found that someone on
here did it or in the forums, I think I'd be
justified flaming the lists till I was banned and
going off in a huff for a million years.
How someone or ones could destroy an honest to
god good guy's work is beyond me.
He even made the see monkey still does I think and has many ideas.
Unlike some guy that became alchemy with the
first preorders and other stuff though I was not
involved at all really with this.
On this one aprone I was which is what makes it really hard to handle.
Swamp
s last birthday brandon had a celebration
recording which I still remember then a mission
where he got to the wrong warehouse and then died.
he was trying to run the game at midnight and was tired.
It was fun.
This year we are wandering if swamp has gone to the big tirent in the sky.
We may be ok this time but next time?
I think its right for aprone to actually stop
making improvements to swamp at least for now.
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