Hi Charles,

No offense, but please stop spouting old information like this. Most
newer LG phones don't have this problem, and have not had them for
quite some time. I do not know where you are getting your information,
but I can say the problem you speak of is not an issue on an LG phone
running a recent version of Droid OS. Things are moving very rapidly
in terms of Android accessibility and both the OS and Talkback are
being updated very rapidly. So something you heard a year ago, six
months ago, or three months ago may not be true today. Know what I
mean?

If you really want to know what is going on Suggest you head over to
the Eyes Free mailing list, sign up, and follow the discussions as
that is really the only way to keep up to date with what is going on.
I know that I found a couple of web sites that discussed this or that
didn't work on Android, were not accessible, only to find out on the
Eyes Free list that issue had ben resolved a couple of months back.
Point being is I think the problem we have with Android is there is a
lot of old out of date information being passed around by well meaning
people who don't use Android, but are only going by what they have
heard. Therefor much of what has been said is either false, out of
date, or simply misinformation.

Of course, what Cara said earlier is true as well. There are so many
different phones running different versions of Droid OS that one
person's experience wit say a Samsung Galaxy S3 won't be the same as
someone running a Droid Razor MX. The difference is so drastic that
one person will have a good experience and the other may have a bad
one all because he or she picked the wrong phone. As a result of this
confusion Android doesn't have a good rep among blind and low vision
users even though in the hands of the right user and the right phone
might be a decent alternative to an iPhone.

I guess the thing that makes an iPhone stand out is there is a similar
user experience regardless of the phone, and accessibility is stable
and just works. There is no worries about if a person has the right
phone, right version of the OS,and if app x will work.

Cheers!


On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
> Those are not fully accessible.  Unless things have changed, LG phones speak
>
> through the first few layers of their menus, then quit speaking.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shaun everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
>
>
>> Well with things as they are people are pointing at the lg nexus phones.
>>
>> At 09:23 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote:
>>>Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far
>>>I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple
>>>iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were
>>>arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt
>>>Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and
>>>VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit
>>>better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher
>>>price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an
>>>Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are
>>>available for the platform?
>>>
>>>I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was
>>>one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is
>>>there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know
>>>about?
>>>I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is
>>>pretty much madly in  love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to
>>>be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA
>>>Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D
>>>
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