Hi Shaun, Don't be ridiculous. I can sympathize with the reasons you may be feeling discouraged and have a negative outlook on our chances of keeping up with the mainstream markets, but even so a number of your comments are a bit extreme. They are ridiculous when one thinks about them rationally.
You say that the blind will never have the resources to develop anything bar keyboard games. That's total non-sense. The fact of the matter is that here in the US one can get a decent joystick or gamepad for under $50, and will work with directX. Its not terribly complicated or difficult to support alot of joysticks and other controllers generically through DirectX or SDL if game developers choose to do so. If more direct support is required a game developer can spend a little more time writing a custom profiler. Its not a question of resources but effort. Further more your assumption that we as blind developers can never make good games is similarly off base. While I agree we might not be able to compete with major mainstream game companies I do see us reaching a quality with indie game developers. Most mainstream indie game developers have higher quality games, but aren't supported by much more developers and resources than we have right now. The difference is they have skilled developers who have a good idea on what they want to develop and have higher standards than audio game developers. So the place to begin with improving audio games is having higher standards. Cheers! On 8/10/14, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote: > True time and in principal I agree with you. > But till we can get equal access with hardware and software and that > sadly means right now that it needs to work with jaws or something > like nvda or with scripts or something we will always be at a disadvantage. > There may not be any advantage going foreward depending on what we are > doing. > Right now, I have no job in fact if the security factor, was not so > much I'd still be using win xp. > Heck I may have been using dos 3.2 for all it matters. > Simularly with my phone the crappy nokia with crappy outdated talks > has been all I have needed since I have got it. > While i am sertainly back in the dark ages I have no reason to move > foreward. > And to do so relitively still costa a lot to do so. > > Until nvda at any rate. > Until everything just works disabled in general can never be on the > front line at least not as often as we like. > The same is with games. > We will never have the resources to make anything good bar keyboard > games we don't have the man power to make that much. > We as blind can't create really good games because we have never seen > really. > Don't get me wrong we can make good blind games but they will never > match what is round. > The only way we can move is if enough sighted come foreward. > Sadly for all concerned that needs to be accepted on a physical and > comercial level, and that means the big game corperations need to > stop saying we feel sorry for the poor blind but the market is to > small and we don't care and we are not bothered so go to heell blind > person. > Or that is what I feel sometimes. > I don't think we can be ahead on that sence the same as normals. > I think the way I look at it is that the disabled have their own class. > You upgrade to your needs its never going to be the top heck you may > be behind by decades but it will be what ever the last working system is. > And where you started since I have used the keyboard for the last 30 > years thats windows xp 7 and whatever has a non touchscreen environment. > My gaming device of choice is the keyboard maybe some mouse support. > My office of choicde is office xp or 97 my email client is eudora and > internet explorerr and winamp are what I use for other stuff. > Its been ages since I have really needed or had the cash to upgrade > anything though I have upgraded only when I have needed so. > So while I agree with you in principal tim we are not all equal, > accessability is not all equal. > In fact if it were this conversation would never take place, it > wouldn't need to. > As for us bitching we have a lot to bitch about in a sence and a lot not. > Most of it is beyond our control sadly but if it were I am sure we > would make more noise than we are. > And while the user base of whatever community or communities may be > aware a lot of people outside the percentage that play games in fact > use computers for more than work at least think I know several that > think the blind can't play games bar card or the childrens games > their organisation says like as a bat stuff. > I was going to start a gaming to student project in schools with > laptops but it fell through. > And sadly outside the general base there is no interest, a lot of > organisations want education rather than shoot this and that a lot of > our games are stratogy based to but still. > Getting things across will be a challenge. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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