HI Dark,

You said:

most sighted people cannot actually touch type at anything like a respectable 
speed, they just peer at the keys and press so aren't that much slower than 
with a conventional keyboard

What do you mean about sighted people not being able to touch-type quickly?

Am I completely misunderstanding you here?

Thanks bunches!

Cara
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On Mar 29, 2015, at 8:38 AM, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

That is why I use dictation.

the problem however devin is most sighted people cannot actually touch type at 
anything like a respectable speed, they just peer at the keys and press so 
aren't that much slower than with a conventional keyboard.

I suspect keyboards will always be around in some form, even if just for taking 
notes or secretarial jobs simply because an accomplished typist will always be 
faster than someone using a touch screen, though as on ios, keyboard commands 
for actually using the operating system probably won't be around for that long.

This is why I think it's going to fall into  either using a keyboard for 
specialist text in put, dictation or touch screen.

All the best,

Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?


> Also, I think that if the touch screen is to be made the default input 
> device, I think screen readers have got to step up their imagining of how a 
> blind person would input text into the touch screen. Sure, braille input is 
> nice, but let's face a little bitty fact, braille is slower than typing. A 
> lot slower.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shaun,
>> 
>> That may be so, but we all know mainstream consumer products isn't
>> concerned with accessibility for blind consumers. That keyboard which
>> may in deed be the best access for a blind consumer is quickly and
>> rapidly vanishing from the consumer space and is now a optional device
>> rather than a mandatory one. Now days touchscreens are the primary
>> input device for smartphones, laptops, tablets, and several other
>> devices.
>> So don't get to attached to your keyboard because I don't see it
>> lasting for that much longer outside of an office environment.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/28/15, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I agree, for us blinks, the best access is a keyboard, and that means
>>> a computer at least  for now.
>>> as voice recognition gets better that may become another big form,
>>> touch I am not sure about.
>>> 
>> 
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